January 1, 2020

比特币经济学 1 : 开讲

比特币经济学：基于BitcoinSV的全新视角来重新构想世界经济格局 #

Recreating Economics based on Bitcoin : Reimagining the world economic landscape based on a new perspective of BitcoinSV #

CONTENTS (目录) #

Conversation : 2020.2.23 #

我是程zi:
太好了，老罗在，我以为你放弃群了
Great. Lao luo is here. I thought you gave up the group

hslayj:
不可能放弃BSV，这是我们这辈人人生中难得遇到的机遇，可能这辈子就这么一次了,投资做好长久准备，最低是4年，如果4年内要动的钱，最好不要投，1月才翻倍，下跌是很可能的。而且BSV投资类似股票投资，还是有可能亏的，不要做梭哈，要给自己留下财务空间
It’s impossible to give up BSV, this is a rare opportunity in the life of our generation, maybe this is just once in a lifetime, invest for a long time, the minimum is 4 years, if you want to move money in 4 years, better not to invest, only doubled in January, down is very likely. And BSV investment is similar to the stock investment, or likely to lose money, do not sol-ha, to leave their own financial space

铠恺凯:
我没有太理解去中心化。淘宝属于第三方也算是一个中心化？@hslayj
I don’t really understand decentralization. Taobao belongs to a third party is also a centralized? @ hslayj

hslayj:
是的，淘宝属于中心化，除了BSV都属于中心化，没有稳定协议，就代表有人可以操纵系统
Yes, taobao belongs to centralization, except BSV belong to centralization, there is no stable agreement, it means someone can manipulate the system

铠恺凯:
淘宝中心化，腾讯中心化去不了吧？比如腾讯这种。有自己的生态了。Q币就是他的一种虚拟货币
Yes, taobao belongs to centralization, except BSV belong to centralization, there is no stable agreement, it means someone can manipulate the system

hslayj:
是的，淘宝和腾讯都是中心化的企业，去中心化是币圈的谎言，任何没有锁定协议的币，其中心都在协议开发者手里，比如eth是V神，btc是core，bch是他们的开发组,BSV不一定肯定成功，但是所有除了BSV都是有很多谎言的资金盘
Yes, taobao and tencent are centralized enterprises, decentralization is the lie of coinage circle, any coin without locking agreement, its center is in the hands of the agreement developers, such as eth is V god, BTC is core, BCH is their development group, BSV may not be sure of success, but all except BSV are a lot of lies of the capital disk

清风徐来:
中肯
To the point

铠恺凯:
我是对使用BSV有疑问。只能当面支付，如果像淘宝那样交易。还是需要第三方？比如你邮寄一双鞋我，我付BSV
I have questions about using BSV. Can only pay face to face, if the transaction like taobao. Or do you need a third party? Let’s say you mail me a pair of shoes and I pay BSV

hslayj:
BSV在支付层面，就像微信支付宝差不多,如果你要确保网络上的鞋子寄过来，确实需要第三方平台监控这个过程
BSV is on the payment side, just like WeChat alipay. If you want to make sure that the shoes on the Internet are delivered, you really need a third-party platform to monitor the process

铠恺凯:
我的疑问是能否去除第三方，看来是不能
My question is whether the third party can be removed

hslayj:
不能这么说,如果只考虑付钱这个层面的事情，是可以没有第三方的。因为你签名了交易，直接就矿机上链了，没有人会审核，除非被标记成非法交易，可能会有事后的法律问题。但是通过微信、银行、支付宝，其实相当于经过了一个第三方的审核方，来完成这笔交易
You can’t say that. If you only think about paying money, you can do it without a third party. Because you signed the deal, it went straight to the mine chain, and no one would review it, unless it was marked as an illegal deal, there could be legal issues afterwards. But through WeChat, the bank, pay treasure, be equivalent to passing through an audit party of a third party actually, will complete this transaction

大勇:
@hslayj 老罗，你对BSV的了解是从什么时候开始的？
@hslayj, when did you learn about BSV?

hslayj:
去年吧
Last year!

铠恺凯:
我觉得其他虚拟币不一定会死，会跟BSV区别开来，他们只要搞几个空壳项目，应该还是活的下去的，就像股票那样得存在
I think other virtual currency will not necessarily die, will be different from BSV, as long as they engage in a few shell projects, should still live, like the stock has to exist

hslayj:
之前币圈的逻辑是，链上扩容不可能，core把这个话说死了，所以大家就万链齐发，各做各的链，结果去年BSV激进扩容，相当于粉碎了这个谎言，那万链齐发的逻辑就不对了，要万链归一，而唯一能做到这个的，目前来看只有BSV，而这个逻辑也只有中本聪本人才敢这么提
Currency before the logic is that of chain expansion is not possible, the core the words died, so everybody is all chain, each do each chain, and the result BSV radical expansion of last year, equivalent to crush the lie, that the logic of chain have been wrong, should belong to a chain, and the only way to do this, for now only BSV, and this logic is only in the hearing the people dare to mention this

大勇：
你认为CSW是不是中本聪？
Do you think CSW is satoshi nakamoto?

hslayj:
是的，CSW肯定是中本聪
Yes, CSW must be satoshi nakamoto

hslayj:
BSV一出来，大家发现万币归一万链归一才是区块链的最终宿命时，其他币就没有生存空间了。关键是，其他所有币都是建立在去中心化谎言之上的，要做大事的人，是不能当中撒谎的，特别是在现代金融市场上，谁都不是傻子，被骗一次就够了，没人会总被骗
As soon as BSV came out, we found that the ultimate fate of the block chain is the return of ten thousand yuan to the chain of ten thousand yuan, and there was no room for other COINS to live. The point is, all the other currencies are built on decentralized lies, and people who want to do great things can’t lie, especially in modern financial markets

大勇:
那为什么圈内大佬们没有几个发声认可呢？比如：李笑来、恭亲王、沈波
So why are there so few vocal endorsements from the big boys? For example: li xiaolai, prince gong, shen bo

hslayj:
因为他们可能还是沉浸在CSW是骗子的这个刻板印象里面，等这些人如果都动了，天就已经变了，那可是几十万的往里砸盘啊
Because they’re probably still steeped in the stereotype that CSW is a fraud, and by the time these guys move, the sky will have changed, and that’s hundreds of thousands of hits

铠恺凯:
前两天伦敦大会。看几个风投公司的人，谈话的意思感觉还是处于观望状态，
London convention the other day. Look at a couple of VCS, and the conversation is still on the sidelines,

hslayj:
我不知道BSV是否最后一定成功，但是我知道除了BSV以外的都是资金盘，最后肯定成不了
I don’t know if BSV will be successful in the end, but I know that all other than BSV are funds, it will not be successful in the end

大勇:
按说他们的认知绝不差，否则不可能第一波吃到比特币的红利
They are not supposed to be bad at this, or they wouldn’t be able to get the first bitcoin dividend

hslayj:
我希望你们能够明白一点，一个企业成长在面世之前，基本是有ABCDE轮融资的，等到投资者把肉吃了、筋抽了、骨敲碎了，最后的股票市场才能轮到普通投资者喝点汤，BSV相当于根本没经历过这个前期过程，直接就面向大众了，相当于是一个原始股，所以投资者对他是完全不了解的
I hope you can understand a little, a firm growth before the launch, basic is ABCDE rounds of financing, wait for investors to eat the meat, muscle, bones break, the last of the stock market to turn ordinary investors to drink soup, BSV equivalent to never experienced the preliminary process, directly to the general public, rather then a primitive, so investors was completely don’t understand to him

hslayj:
所以目前的情况是，机构投资者和普通投资者是同时起跑的，不像传统股权投资，机构投资者通常是提前布局好了，价值挖出来了，才面对普通投资者
So the current situation is that institutional investors and ordinary investors are running at the same time, unlike traditional equity investment, institutional investors are usually in advance of the layout, dig out the value of the face of ordinary investors

hslayj:
BSV是币圈唯一的净土，除了他以外我在币圈看到的几乎都是谎言和欺诈，逻辑通顺的没几个
BSV is the only pure land of coinage circle, except him, what I see in coinage circle is lie and cheat almost, logic smooth few

CHEER不舍:
@hslayj 除了bsv 还有没持其它币？
@hslayj have any other COINS besides BSV?

hslayj:
没有，bsv不一定成功，其他币肯定失败。建立在谎言上的东西，消失的那一天，我们甚至都不会感受到，去中心化的谎言让你找个责任人都找不到
No, BSV doesn’t necessarily succeed, other COINS definitely fail. What’s built on the lie, the day it disappears, we don’t even feel like the decentralized lie that you can’t even find someone to blame

hslayj:
区块链是中本聪带到这个世界上的，如果他做不成，我不觉得有其他人能够做成
Blockchain is what satoshi nakamoto brought to the world, and if he can’t do it, I don’t think anyone else can

CHEER不舍:
你是多了解bsv这么自信,鸡蛋放一个篮子有点风险吧
How much do you know about BSV and how confident you are, putting all your eggs in one basket is a little risky

hslayj:
我也没有满仓bsv，他可能失败，不过其他的都是资金盘，而且充斥着谎言
I am not full of BSV, he may fail, but the rest is money, and full of lies

hslayj:
区块链来到这个世界上是为了把人类的数据通过一个诚实的数据库积累，最后变成全人类的信用来源，诚实的世界不是一天建成的，更不可能通过谎言来建成
Blockchain comes to this world to accumulate human data through an honest database and finally become the credit source for all mankind. An honest world is not built in a day, and it is impossible to build it through lies

hslayj:
如果btc和bch老实一点，说中本聪不对，我就是要这么干，我敬他们是条汉子，但是他们却去栽赃中本聪，这就说明他们缺乏理论自信，只有通过陷害别人，才能合法占有别人的东西。
If BTC and BCH are honest and say satoshi nakamoto is wrong, that’s what I’m going to do. I respect them as men, but they plant satoshi nakamoto, which shows that they lack theoretical confidence and can only legally possess other people’s things by framing them.

hslayj:
区块链本身是个生态系统，他必须承载足够多不同的数据和产业，所以必须协议稳定，不可能今天是雪山、明天是岩浆、后天是大海，这样的生态是长不出来东西的，而唯一能够做到协议稳定就是BSV
The block chain itself is an ecosystem, it must carry enough different data and industries, so the agreement must be stable, it cannot be a snow mountain today, tomorrow is magma, the day after tomorrow is the sea, such an ecology can not grow things, and the only agreement can be stable is BSV

hslayj:
其他的后来者觉得可以砍掉胳膊换个机械手好像更厉害，但是生态就这么被破坏了，于是他们只能陷入到毫无止境的生物排异反应中，每天穷于改协议、改代码，对于一个生物体来说，这是会死人的
Other latcomers thought it would be better to cut off an arm and replace it with a robotic hand, but the ecology was so destroyed that they were trapped in an endless cycle of biological rejection, changing protocols and codes every day, which would kill an organism

hslayj:
万币归一、万链归一是区块链的最终宿命，全球只需要一个公共信用数据库，就和全人类只需要一个互联网一样，一个产业链或者联盟链不管多强大，也就和局域网一样，成为不了行业标准，只有上了互联网才能成为行业标杆
No matter how powerful an industrial chain or alliance chain is, it is just like the local area network (LAN). It cannot become the industry standard, and only the Internet can become the industry benchmark

我是程zi:
2020 7月18号到底要搞啥,数据库确权？老罗给分析下？@hslayj
What the hell are we going to do on July 18, 2020? Database confirmation? Lao luo to the analysis? @ hslayj

hslayj:
法律层面的不确定因素很多，其实最重要的还是舆论作用，BTC的谎言被揭穿了，他的市值就到BSV上了
There are a lot of legal uncertainties, but actually the most important one is the effect of public opinion. BTC’s lies were exposed, and his market value went up to BSV

王超蔚:
未来很多币可能就是个局域网，用不上的就死掉是这样吗
In the future, many COINS may be a local area network, do not use the dead is it

hslayj:
对的，用不上的一定死，你觉得这个世界上真的需要3000种不同货币么?目前主流大众还认为CSW博士是骗子，还认为BTC是正版比特币，这就是市场的主流观点
Yes, those that don’t need to die. Do you think the world really needs 3,000 different currencies? At present, the mainstream public still thinks that Dr. CSW is a fraud and BTC is the genuine bitcoin, which is the mainstream view of the market

hslayj:
我给大家讲一下比特币的经济模型，比特币每十分钟目前产量12，5枚，到下半年6.25枚，每四年减半，那么过二十年，这个补贴就没了，谁来养活矿工?
Let me tell you a little bit about the economic model of bitcoin, where we’re producing 12,5 bitcoins every 10 minutes, and by the second half of the year, we’re producing 6.25 bitcoins, and we’re halving it every four years, and then after 20 years, the subsidy is gone, and who’s going to feed the miners?

王超蔚:
请教一下未来几个平台币呢，有生存价值吗，像火币ok都是搞上市，以后币和股又会怎么联系
Consult a few future flat TWD, have survival value, like fire coin ok is to make appear on the market, how will later coin and stock contact

hslayj:
只有最后生存下来的信用数据库通过不断的数据上链的刚性市场需求才能养活矿工，而这就决定了绝大部分币必须死
Only the last surviving credit database can feed the miners through the constant rigid market demand on the data chain, which determines that most of the money must die

铠恺凯:
平台有价值，平台币就有价值，除非那些交易所死了
The platform has value, the flat dollar has value, unless those exchanges are dead

hslayj:
我不看好平台币，也许平台币把自己看成股票，但是他是不受监管的，意味着没有最低准备金要求，没有账户的透明性，没有法律的可触达性，这几点都说明，即使他们想做好事，真的熊市来了，也不一定能够挨过挤兑潮
I’m not a big bet on the nt dollar, maybe the nt dollar sees itself as a stock, but it’s unregulated, which means there’s no reserve requirement, no transparency of accounts, no legal accessibility, all of which means that even if they want to do good, a real bear market is coming, they’re not going to be able to survive a run

hslayj:
交易所的黑幕太多了，随便一查一大把，就不一一列举了，反正我是不碰的，未来监管能够触达了，估计会有好的投资标的，目前不敢去赌人性
The black curtain of the exchange is too much, look up a large number of random, do not enumerate, anyway I am not touched, the future regulation can touch, the estimation will have good investment target, at present dare not go gambling human nature

hslayj:
我对火币和OK有好感，但是我不敢持有他们的平台币就是因为这个原因，金融必须被监管，否则人性从来不可靠，我不想活在每天害怕平台跑路的噩梦里面
I have a good feeling for firemoney and OK, but I dare not hold their nt dollars for this reason. Finance must be regulated, or human nature is never reliable

王超蔚:
这么看不如直接持有他们的股票
It’s better to just hold their shares

hslayj:
区块链能被监管是BSV一直努力的方向，其他币都在屏蔽政府，这个世界除了代码以外，还有很多的维度来理解这个世界，法律是非常重要的人类智慧积累，code is law就是几个不懂事的程序员意淫出来的
The block chain can be regulated is the direction that BSV has been striving for, other currencies are blocking the government, the world in addition to code, there are many dimensions to understand the world, law is a very important accumulation of human wisdom, code is law is a few ignorant programmers psychosexuality

hslayj:
把BSV理解成有风险的高成长股票，把所有币圈其他币都理解成资金盘，就能保证自己的资金安全，回报率这个东西我通常是放在资金安全性后面去考虑的
Think of BSV as a risky high-growth stock, think of all the other COINS as a money sheet, and you can keep your money safe. The rate of return is something that I usually think of behind the safety of my money

CHEER不舍:
@hslayj 要做到零售支付要求我觉得是稳定币才能做到吧，比如libra dcep，想一下你会用价格波动的货币来日常支付使用吗，所以bsv怎么说？
Hslayj retail payment requirements I think it’s a stable currency, like libra dcep, think you would use a currency with fluctuating prices for daily payments, so what does BSV say?

hslayj:
libra和dcep的逻辑不成立，我不看好。波动大是因为市值小，等到过几年稳定了，链上交易大了，自然不懂就小了，除了国内有微信支付宝，国外的移动支付还是个空白市场，所以价格有变动无所谓，直接用法币标价，bsv可以自动换算
I am not optimistic that the logic of libra and dcep does not hold. Fluctuation is big because market value is small, wait until a few years stable, the trade on the chain is big, nature does not understand small, in addition to home has WeChat pay treasure, foreign mobile pay still is a blank market, so the price has fluctuation does not matter, be marked with legal tender directly, BSV can be converted automatically

CHEER不舍:
dcep马上要退出了不要几年，大家都得用
Dcep is going to be out in a few years, everybody’s going to have to use it

hslayj:
我不想被请喝茶，所以我只能说我不看好dcep，你如果说他一定可以，我也没办法
I don’t want to be invited to tea, so all I can say is that I’m not a big fan of dcep, and I can’t help it if you say he can

铠恺凯:
中国邮政和顺丰哪个好？
Which is better, China post or sf express?

hslayj:
就是这个思路，慢慢想吧，比特币不是一个产品，是一个生态，理解了这个区别，就知道为什么只有BSV能成功
This is the idea, slowly think, bitcoin is not a product, is an ecology, understand this distinction, you know why only BSV can succeed

Conversation : 2020.2.24 #

hslayj:
Libra、DCEP或者以后其他国家的CBDC本质是从法币体系延续下来的东西，是没有政治中立性的，我不觉得他们和传统的央行有本质的区别，如果一定要多个支付层，类似支付宝和微信支付的东西就可以满足需求了。一旦涉及到政治，就有国界的限制，很难成为全球标准，更不要说容纳所有的人类信用数据了，本质上还是个局域网，可能在某些政府强干预领域有用，但是是不可能取代BSV的全球信用账本作用的。
The essence of Libra, DCEP or later CBDC in other countries is something that has been inherited from the legal currency system and has no political neutrality. I don’t think they are fundamentally different from the traditional central bank. If there must be multiple payment layers, things like alipay and WeChat payment can meet the demand. When it comes to politics, there are national boundaries that make it hard to become a global standard, let alone hold all the human credit data. It is essentially a local area network, which may be useful in some areas of strong government intervention, but is unlikely to replace BSV’s role as a global credit ledger.

hslayj:
而且BSV目前的生态成长来看，他记录的也不仅仅是金融数据、支付数据，而是所有涉及到信用的数据，例如存证系统、企业资源管理系统、医疗管理系统、实名身份系统或者以后陆续仍然可能不断出来的生态位系统，BSV的真正长久愿景是成为人类公共信息的信用数据库，数据放上去了，自然会有多维度的加工、对比和价值链条，也只有这样才能让人们持续愿意使用比特币，最后才能在补贴红利消失后，养活矿工这个群体，并促使他们不断更新基础设施进行生态的持续升级
And has BSV ecological view, his record is not just financial data, payment, but all involve the credit data, such as deposit certificate system, enterprise resource management system, medical management system, identification system, or may still be constantly out in succession after the ecological system, the BSV long-term vision is to become a real human public the credit database of information, data put up, natural will have multidimensional processing, contrast and value chain, only in this way can make people continue to use COINS, can finally disappeared after the subsidy dividends, feed the this group, And to push them to upgrade their infrastructure and upgrade their ecology

hslayj:
相比BSV，所有其他伪币或者仿币，基本都还是产品思路在做区块链，因为万链齐发的逻辑是每个链只要做好自己的事情就足够了，这是BTC CORE当初说链上扩容不可能的生态后发灾难，但是当人们发现自己做链既没有信用，也没有效率时，很多行业链和联盟链最后都会转到BSV上来，因为只有BSV是理论上无限扩容，生态可以无限发展，协议还是承诺长久稳定的，当大家都意识到这个事情发生时，万链齐发就会转向万链归一，毕竟没有人希望土豆价格有个土豆价格链，黄瓜物流有个黄瓜物流链，人们希望简单的界面和统一的标准，并且最后数据能更可能多维度的打通。
BSV, compared to all other counterfeit or imitation COINS, basic block chain or product ideas are doing, because the chain of wan qi logic is each chain is enough as long as you do your things, this is BTC CORE said chain expansion impossible ecological disaster of backwardness, but when people find themselves do chain neither credit nor efficiency, a lot of industry chain and chain alliance eventually transferred to the BSV, because only the BSV is theoretically infinite expansion, ecology can be infinite development, agreement or commitment to stable for a long time, when everyone is aware of the things happen, qi wan chain go to belong to a chain, After all, no one wants a price chain for potatoes, and cucumber logistics has a chain for cucumber logistics. People want a simple interface and unified standards, and finally data can be more multi-dimensional.

hslayj:
大家如果还有什么疑问可以尽管提，不要怕蠢问题，BSV是新生事物，很多地方不懂很正常，讨论一下可能就清晰了，对我来说也是成长，如果回答不了的，我也会实话实说
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask, don’t be afraid of stupid questions, BSV is a new thing, many places do not understand is normal, discuss it may be clear, for me is also growing, if I can not answer, I will tell the truth

蒋杰:
我比较担心bsv本身的开发投入，感觉现在严重不足。看github的提交惨淡
I am concerned about the development of BSV itself and feel that it is seriously underfunded. Look at github’s submission

hslayj:
BSV协议已经锁定了，以后可能就还有一个改bug的硬分叉，以后就没有开发人员什么事了，生态开发属于开发者自有资源，不用太担心，说句极端的话，就算coingeek和csw博士现在不在了，我觉得可能会影响宣传进度，但是生态进度的影响并不大，可以参考一下互联网，网景浏览器出来之前，人们认为互联网的主要作用就是发邮件，还不如电话好用
BSV agreement was already locked, change may be there is a bug of bifurcate, later have no what developers, developers own resources of ecological development, and don’t need to worry too much, say extreme words, even if coingeek and Dr CSW isn’t here right now, I think may influence promote progress, but the effects of ecological progress is not big, you can refer to the Internet, netscape out before, it is thought that the Internet is the main purpose of email, it is better to use telephone

蒋杰:
要建成坚固的基础设施绝对不是固定协议就ok的，基础设施软件一定还需要很多调整
Building a solid infrastructure is by no means a fixed agreement, and infrastructure software must require a lot of tweaking

hslayj:
基础设施软件属于生态系统位置，谁都可以开发，然后进行市场竞争，优胜劣汰、适者生存
Infrastructure software belongs to the ecosystem location, anyone can develop, and then market competition, survival of the fittest, survival of the fittest

蒋杰:
我就觉得和其他两个相比 bsv本身开发偏弱
I think BSV itself is weak compared to the other two

蒋杰:
我最近跑的最新版bsv节点连了很多bch节点，区块同步都出问题
The latest version of BSV node that I ran recently had a lot of BCH nodes connected to it, and the block synchronization was out of order

hslayj:
比特币的基础协议主要决定的挖矿层面的事情，比特币的生态有三层位置，最底层用协议规定好的是挖矿硬件层，然后软件层面是生态系统，鼓励所有人参与建设，然后市场来决定优劣
The basic protocol of bitcoin mainly determines the mining layer. The ecology of bitcoin has three layers. The bottom layer is the mining hardware layer stipulated by the protocol, and then the ecosystem is the software layer

hslayj:
BTC和BCH是把比特币当作一个产品来开发，BSV是把比特币当作一个生态来做，目标不一样，最后的用力方向就不一样
BTC and BCH develop bitcoin as a product, while BSV develop bitcoin as an ecology. If the goal is different, the final force direction will be different

hslayj:
如果把比特币看作一个产品，其他链条看作其他产品，那就是万链齐发的逻辑，但是我们现在也看到了万链齐发的逻辑有很大问题，首先就是没有统一规则，各干各的，ICO乱象坑了多少投资者大家是知道的，BSV这个月才锁定协议，有点bug我觉得也正常，但是只要底层协议是2008年白皮书写的东西，那就不可怕，因为是可预期的更改，但是bch不一样，他冒出来的雪崩、虫洞、收税，都是委员会拍脑袋拍出来的，你不知道以后他们仍然会怎么改，所以永远不会有大企业常驻，因为他们从来不把自己当生态，他们只觉得自己是个产品
If the currency as a product, the other chain as other products, that is the logic of chain have been but now we can see the logic of chain have been there is a big problem, first of all is that there is no uniform rules, each dry, ICO mess pit is known to how many investors, BSV this month to locking protocol, a little bug I think is normal, but as long as the underlying protocol is a white paper written in 2008, that is not terrible, because it is a predictable changes, but is not the same as the BCH, he came out of an avalanche, wormhole, taxes, are committee head pat, You don’t know what they’re still going to do, so there’s never going to be a big company that’s going to stay, because they never think of themselves as ecology, they just think of themselves as a product, right

蒋杰:
固定共识协议这个我是认同的。我只是觉得要支持大区块，现在的区块同步协议还有很多改进空间，比方像迅雷的下载技术。这些都需要持续改进基础软件
Fixed consensus agreement I agree with that. I just think there’s a lot of room for improvement in the current block synchronization protocol to support large blocks, such as xunlei’s download technology. All this requires constant improvement of the underlying software

hslayj:
btc也一样，闪电网络最终会导致交易数据的中间过程丢失，本身在法理上都是违法的，只是目前政府还没有回过味儿来，否则被取缔是迟早的事情，而法律亲和一直是BSV的努力方向，CSW目前在做的实名系统、版权注册、数据库版权追责、英国官方纳税、美国证监会证词，都是在为区块链的合法化打下铺垫
BTC is same also, lightning network will ultimately lead to trading data lost, in the middle of the process itself is illegal, in legal theory is now the government has not came to my taste, otherwise the outlawed is sooner or later, and law and has been the direction of BSV, CSW is doing the real-name system, registration of copyright, and database copyright liability, British officials pay tax, the securities and exchange commission testimony, are in a backseat to block chain legalization

蒋杰:
锁定协议不等于锁定bsv开发
The locking protocol is not the same as locking BSV development

hslayj:
软件开发是一直允许的，只是不在协议层而已，你可以参考一下互联网的tcp/ip协议和普通的应用软件的区别
Software development is always allowed, but not in the protocol layer, you can refer to the Internet TCP/IP protocol and ordinary application software differences

hslayj:
BSV的脚本软件就是专门来做大规模链上服务软件开发的，理论上什么软件都可以做出来
BSV script software is specially to do large-scale chain service software development, in theory what software can be made

hslayj:
你可以去关注一下这次在大会演讲的中国创业者刘博士的演讲，就是专门开发了一个比特币开发软件sCrypt，就是比特币领域的高级编程语言，专门做区块链链上开发用的，也是给很多生态位参与企业构建自己的应用准备的，生态的成长绝不是靠coingeek和csw博士本身就能完善的，是整个行业的觉醒，就好像当初苹果的Appstore
You can go to pay attention to this speech in the conference of the Chinese entrepreneurs to Dr. Liu’s speech, is to develop a currency sCrypt development software, is the currency in the field of high-level programming language, specialises in development with block chain chain, is also to a lot of ecological niche in enterprises ready to build your own application, the growth of ecology is not by Dr Coingeek and CSW itself can be perfect, is the awakening of the whole industry, like apple’s app store

蒋杰:
bsv现在鼓励链上服务开发，给人感觉基础已经准备好了，但我认为基础开发也是欠缺的。大企业会先观望的
BSV now encourages service development on the chain, giving the impression that the foundation is ready, but I think the foundation is also lacking. Big business will wait and see

昊轩:
英国或欧盟能否反抗美国采用比特币，很关键阿
Whether the UK or the eu can resist the us adopting bitcoin is crucial

hslayj:
生态的成长不是一天完成的，例如九十年代也有电商创业，但是没做成亏大发了，只要生态位存在，总有各种各样的创业者来尝试，成功的那天就是一个类似阿里这种级别企业的成功，在巨大机会面前，创业本来就是一个勇敢者游戏
Ecological growth is not complete in a day, for example, in the ninety s have electricity business entrepreneurship, but didn’t make it pretty pathetic, as long as there is niche, always have to try all kinds of entrepreneurs, on the day of success is the success of a similar ali this level enterprise, in front of the huge opportunity, entrepreneurship is a the brave game

hslayj:
反抗采用没用，只要政治家有政治觉悟，就不会拒绝新技术，如果一定要反对，那就是当初日本反对互联网的下场，让新生技术在其他地方成长然后把自己的国家淘汰
Resistance to adoption is useless. As long as politicians have political awareness, they will not reject new technologies

hslayj:
目前很多国家已经把区块链上升到国家战略了，包括中国在内，而目前在我看来，区块链的唯一正确打开方式就是BSV，其他币或者区块链都是邯郸学步，即使做的好的联盟链或者产业链最后也难逃大链吃小链的结局，最好的方式反而是把产业逻辑移植进入BSV，然后成为新世界的标杆，这样的机会反而更大
Now many countries have put a chain of block up to the national strategy, including China, and now, in my opinion, the only open the right way to block chain is BSV, other currency or block chain is handan toddlers, even do good league chain or chain finally can’t escape from the end of the big chain eat small chain, instead of the best way is to put the industry logic transplantation into the BSV, then become the new benchmark, more such opportunity

hslayj:
对的，比特币是一个大生态，只有正确认识到这一点，才不会执迷于私有链的逻辑上，产品建设思维和生态建设思维是两种完全不同的逻辑
Right, bitcoin is a big ecology. Only by correctly recognizing this, can we not be obsessed with the logic of private chain. Product construction thinking and ecological construction thinking are two completely different logics

hslayj:
这个是郁金香的法院程序吧，如果是这样的话，7月到8月应该能看到非常猛烈的市场反应
110万btc和110万bch的市场砸盘效应，再加上中本聪的身份真相大白，这一拳头就可以让BTC和BCH打趴下
这个操作基本就可以坐视CSW的中本聪身份，市场对这个事情的解读会引发蝴蝶效应，是地震级别的
不过之前中本聪说不会砸太狠，会很温柔。。。
中本聪的身份就是BTC的阿克琉斯之踵，以前不知道所以伤不到他，一旦发现了，巨人的倒下是一瞬间的
000This is the tulip court proceedings, if so, July and August should see a very strong market reaction
The market crash effect of 1.1 million BTC and 1.1 million BCH, coupled with the fact that satoshi nakamoto’s identity was revealed, was enough to knock BTC and BCH to the ground
This operation basically allows you to sit back and watch as CSW’s satoshi nakamoto, the market’s interpretation of this thing causes a butterfly effect, an earthquake scale
But before nakamoto said it wouldn’t be too hard, it would be gentle…
Satoshi nakamoto’s identity is the Achilles’ heel of BTC, previously unknown and therefore unable to hurt him, once discovered, the giant’s fall is instantaneous

林:
共识涌现对市场的冲击不会因为中本聪砸的轻而减轻的，有可能是非理性的
The impact of consensus on the market will not be mitigated by Mr Nakamoto, and may be irrational

hslayj:
BSV是真神归位啊，砸BTC的很大一部分人还是相信比特币的，只是没想到BTC是冒牌的
BSV is a true god, a large part of the people who threw BTC still believe in bitcoin, but did not think that BTC is a fake

hslayj:
而且博士也不可能把BTC换法币吧，大部分还是换BSV吧，我猜
And it’s impossible for the doctor to change the BTC into French currency. Most of them will be BSV, I guess

hslayj:
今年的重头戏应该就是这个，明年是减半后的市场联动反应，BSV的关键就是今年和明年了，这个周期需要干掉BTC拿回皇位，否则后面会怎么发展就不好说了
This year’s major drama should be this, next year is the market linkage reaction after halving, the key of BSV is this year and next year, this cycle needs to kill BTC back to the throne, otherwise how will the future development is not to say

重水vs铁粉:
币安今后也会没落。bsv不上架，大饼和bch贬值没什么成交量，收入大幅度下降。那些有bsv的交易所暴富。
Kwon an will also decline in the future. BSV not on the shelf, flat bread and BCH depreciation of little turnover, revenue significantly decreased. The exchanges that had BSV got rich.

hslayj:
币安能活过今年就不错了，政治庇护所都没了，就是一个流浪交易所，消失是瞬间的事情
Yuan an can survive this year is not bad, the political shelter is gone, is a wandering exchange, disappeared is an instant thing

重水vs铁粉:
一切结束后，可以拍部史诗级大片
When it’s over, we can make an epic movie

然:
不过外面相当大的资金都看好他们所谓的黄金btc，信仰的崩塌很要命的。说不定资本宁愿沉睡在btc里面[捂脸]
But there’s a lot of money out there that’s betting on what they call the gold BTC, and the collapse of faith is going to be fatal. Maybe capital would rather sleep in the BTC.

然:
除非博士一剂猛药砸死btc，砸醒所有资本
Unless the doctor a heavy dose of drugs to kill BTC, to wake up all the capital

林:
@hslayj 记得去年博士说过他只会持有82万枚的BSV，至于BTC之类的分叉币今年会出掉，所得资金捐给慈善基金。
Hslayj remembers that last year Dr. Hslayj said he would hold only 820,000 BSVS, and that split COINS like BTC would be issued this year, with the proceeds going to charity.

重水vs铁粉:
残存幻想也没办法，雷曼倒闭也是瞬间
There was no way to survive a fantasy, and lehman’s failure was instantaneous

hslayj:
是的，博士说过郁金香的非BSV资产都会捐给BSV生态建设
Yes, doctor said that tulip non-bsv assets will be donated to BSV ecological construction

林:
所以不要指望博士会拉盘，场外的资金就会疯狂推升BSV的价格了
So don’t count on Bosch to pull the trigger and the off-market money will drive up the price of BSV like crazy

hslayj:
不是，就算他捐给BSV生态建设者，你觉得这些人会持有BTC么,如果相信BTC那套逻辑，那就觉得CSW是骗子，你觉得CSW博士会把钱捐给认为他是骗子的人么,只要参加了BSV建设，相信了BSV的这套逻辑，有多少钱都得尽快换成BSV才安全吧
Not, even if he go to the BSV ecological builder, what do you think of these people will hold BTC, if believe in BTC that set of logic, then think of CSW is a liar, do you think of Dr CSW will donate money to think he is a liar, just attended the BSV construction, believe the BSV this logic, how much money has to be replaced as soon as possible BSV to safety

林:
所以今年除了BSV，其他比特币的分叉币都将面临巨额抛盘。
So this year, with the exception of BSV, all bitcoin bifurcated COINS will face heavy selling.

hslayj:
所以就算博士自己不这么做，只要他把这个基金的币放出来了，那就必然是砸盘BTC，拉盘BSV，给谁都一样，不过他可能慢慢来，免得一下子放血，后面的卖不出去，这是有可能的，资本市场无比残酷，慢一步就是屠宰场
So even if the doctor himself does not do this, as long as he releases the money of this fund, it is bound to be a plate BTC, a plate BSV, to all the same, but he may take his time, so as not to bleed all at once, the latter can not be sold, which is possible, the capital market is very cruel, slow step is the slaughterhouse

我是程zi:
在克莱曼的案子结束前，CSW的巨量BTC肯定不能卖对吧
CSW’s huge BTC can’t be sold until the kleiman case is over, right

hslayj:
是的，属于争议财产，如果动了，就算违反美国法律了，会被抓的
Yes, it’s disputed property. If it’s moved, it’s a violation of U.S. law, and you’ll be caught

我是程zi:
那既然案子都正式宣判了基本宣告了BTC是假的，那世人皆知晓，不会一下子共识就起来了么
That since the case is formally declared that the basic BTC is false, the world knows, will not be a consensus on it

hslayj:
对于博士来说，这反正都是天上掉下来的，无所谓，BSV不动就行，BTC死活又和他无关，只是多赚少赚而已，钱多了就是个数字，比特币正名比数字重要
For the doctor, this is all from the sky anyway, it doesn’t matter, BSV doesn’t move, BTC dead and alive has nothing to do with him, just more money is a number, the name of bitcoin is more important than the number

hslayj:
是的，市场惯性很大，很少有人能够很快反应过来，大部人认为CSW博士是骗子，骗子说什么他们是不信的
Yes, there is a lot of inertia in the market. Very few people can react quickly. Most people think that Dr. CSW is a liar

我是程zi:
只有BTC价格把他们跌服了才会清醒
Only the price of BTC will bring them to their senses

王超蔚:
应该不那么容易死的，总会反抗一下，比如集体黑博士就算是聪也不一定他的路线就是对的
Should not be so easy to die, always resist, such as the group black doctor is not necessarily cong his line is right

hslayj:
比特币不是靠共识撑起来的虚假子，比特币是有用的，比特币是为了建设一个更诚实的世界，成为全人类的公共信用数据库
Bitcoin is not a sham propped up by consensus. It is useful. It is meant to build a more honest world and become a public credit database for all mankind

林:
BTC所谓的共识只是皇帝的新装而已
The BTC consensus is just the emperor’s new clothes

昊轩:
更像是宗教
It’s more like a religion

重水vs铁粉:
宗教算不上吧
Religion doesn’t count.

hslayj:
庞氏骗局也是构架在谎言上的共识，在骗局崩塌之前，每个投资人都以为自己在赚钱
A ponzi scheme is also a consensus built on lies. Before the scheme collapsed, every investor thought he was making money

重水vs铁粉:
没有丝毫内涵，就是“值钱”
Without any connotation, it is “valuable”.

hslayj:
林总说：“对于存款既盈利的交易所来说，博士让人把资产从币安移走对他们的打击是致命的”
“For exchanges where deposits are profitable, it is fatal for them to have their assets moved away from the currency,” Lin said.

重水vs铁粉:
大饼一直不接受监管，参与暗网交易，被收拾迟早的事
Big cake has not been subject to regulation, participate in the dark network transactions, be cleared up sooner or later

hslayj:
对呀，一个举世瞩目的理念，居然说创始人都没有，这么明显的逻辑漏洞，有出问题的一天，一点都不奇怪
Yes, it is not surprising that a world-renowned concept should be said to have no founder, such an obvious logic flaw, and one day something goes wrong

昊轩:
啥也不用干，囤币就能发财，这是邪教
Nothing to do, hoarding money to get rich, this is a cult

重水vs铁粉:
呵呵，美其名曰“数字黄金”，超越黄金
Hehe, beautiful its name is “digital gold”, surmount gold

hslayj:
是的，区块链从被创造的那一天起的愿景就是为了更诚实的世界，结果被一帮流氓、小偷、强盗给搞得面目全非,然后反过来栽赃创始人是骗子~~
Yes, the blockchain’s vision from the day it was created was for a more honest world, only to be turned upside down by a bunch of hooligans, thieves, and robbers, who in turn frame the founder as a fraud

林:
BTC这十几年只是在交易所炒价格，没有什么实际应用价值，标准的庞氏骗局
BTC has been trading on the exchange for more than a decade, with no real value, a standard ponzi scheme, right

重水vs铁粉:
这部币圈大片，类似《基督山恩仇记》
This is a big movie, like the story of monte cristo.

王超蔚:
数字黄金挺搞笑的
Digital gold is funny

hslayj:
主要是Core为了匿名性躲避政府，组织链上扩容，否则根本就没后面那些垃圾币什么事儿了，全球就有一条区块链，谁想玩都可以来，行业标准一确定，也根本不会有那么多骗子来ICO,阻止链上扩容
It is mainly Core to avoid the government for anonymity, expand the capacity on the organizational chain, otherwise there is no matter what the junk money behind, there is a block chain in the world, who wants to play can come, once the industry standard is determined, there will not be so many cheats to ICO, to stop the expansion of the chain

林:
随着减半的日益临近，BTC的价格再不大幅上涨，Core组可能要考虑增发或学BCH抽税了[偷笑]
With the approach of halving, the price of BTC will not rise significantly, the Core group may have to consider additional issuance or tax collection from BCH. [chuckle]

hslayj:
收编BTC只是第一步，下一步就是万币归一，还区块链一个法制生态，然后是万链归一，让所有产业链和联盟链齐心协力，最后就是用诚实的信用积累数据库塑造一个更诚实的人类文明，这种洗涤是全方位的，包括政治、经济、舆论、社会甚至哲学
Collected BTC is only the first step, the next step is all money unto a, also a legal system of ecological chain block, and then the chain unto one, let all the industrial chain and chain alliance together, the last is to use the honest credit accumulation database to shape a more honest human civilization, the washing is comprehensive, including political, economic, social, public opinion and even philosophy

hslayj:
CSW博士眼里是星辰大海，而币圈的骗子池塘里面只有老鼠般的眼光，不在一个层级上，确实也没有多少共鸣之处
Dr CSW’s eyes are a sea of stars, and the swindling pond of coinage has a rat-like look, not on the same level, and indeed not much resonance

重水vs铁粉:
当初博士被core排挤出来，克莱曼还活着吗？
Was claiman still alive when the doc was pushed out by core?

林:
币圈大多数人只关心短期币价的涨跌，什么用比特币去改变世界的这些事情连想都没想过，格局完全不在一个层次。
所以也没有办法理解博士
Most people in the currency circle are only concerned about the rise and fall of the currency price in the short term. They haven’t even thought about changing the world with bitcoin. The pattern is completely different.
So there’s no way to understand the doctor

hslayj:
2010年，CSW博士被几个无政府主义开发者吊销了网站权限，然后博士就以为比特币已经失败了，就把代码权限给了Gavin Anderson，自己跑去找政府去打击暗网和人口贩子了，2013年的时候Dave Kleinman挂了，那个时候博士应该还在和犯罪分子作斗争吧，我的理解是
In 2010, Dr CSW was suspended by several anarchist developer site permissions, then Dr Thought COINS have failed, to access to the code to Gavin Anderson, oneself ran off to get the government to fight the dark web and traffickers, 2013 Dave Kleinman hang up and then Dr Should still fighting and criminals, my understanding is

hslayj:
后来暗网被破，之前有几个人被抓了，当时Gavin Anderson就又引入了一些开发者，15年扩容之争的时候，CSW博士本来想出来主持大局，Gavin Anderson都说CSW是中本聪了，结果被其他开发者删除了比特币源代码的更改权限，相当于后来博士就没办法影响开发进度了，直到17年分叉
Then dark net was broken, a few people before was caught, when Gavin Anderson, and then introduces some developers, a battle over 15 years of expansion, Dr CSW wanted to come out, Gavin Anderson said in CSW is the hearing, the results by other developers to remove the COINS source code changes permissions, equivalent to later can’t do the impact velocity, Dr Until 17 years split ends

hslayj:
网站权限指的是www.bitcoin.org这个网站
Website permission refers to the website www.bitcoin.org
hslayj:
这是早期的比特币对外宣传窗口
This is the early bitcoin publicity window

hslayj:
现在几乎所有人都知道区块链有用，难度作为比特币区块链的原创者还没有其他人了解他的系统能做什么么，怎么可能只是创造一个拥堵不堪的资金盘呢？
As the originator of bitcoin’s blockchain, no one else knows what his system can do. How can it just create a crowded cash tray?

hslayj:
骷髅会的发言：RYU: BSV这1年已经脚踏实地完成了扩容，兑现了交易量最大，手续费最低的诺言。赢得了近400个项目在链上探索，价格创新高，从低点翻了7倍。而其他人如rv，cz还在反复重复几年前的老话，原地踏步，只能说你是个骗子，你是个骗子…好像祥林嫂…
Skull and bones: RYU: BSV this year has been down-to-earth to complete the expansion, to fulfill the largest transaction volume, the lowest commission promise. Won nearly 400 projects in the chain to explore, the price of a new high, from a low of seven times. While others such as rv and cz are still repeating the same old saying of several years ago, staying in the same place, can only say that you are a liar, you are a liar… Like xianglin…

CHEER不舍:
btc的共识没那么容易崩塌的不受监管有需求就会有市场，而btc是最合适的选择。又是创世区块链货币的身份存在不是说崩就崩的
The consensus of BTC is not so easy to collapse. If there is a demand, there will be a market, and BTC is the most suitable choice. Is the creation of blockchain currency identity is not said to collapse

hslayj:
生态最重要的就是容量，只有容量够大才能海纳百川、万链归一，而其他区块链产业落地的功能性问题，就让占据BSV生态位的其他竞争者在下一轮中来完成吧。
The most important thing in ecology is capacity. Only when the capacity is large enough can the sea accommodate all rivers and the chain be unified. For the functional problems of the landing of other block chain industries, let other competitors occupying BSV ecological niche complete them in the next round.

hslayj:
100万砸盘，正统性受益，就算不彻底死透，也要没掉半条命
1 million to hit the plate, the benefit of legitimacy, even if not completely dead, also did not lose half a life

hslayj:
正统性受疑
Legitimacy is in doubt

重水vs铁粉:
砸盘是注定的，无论官司输赢，百万大饼肯定要变现
Smash dish is doomed, no matter the lawsuit wins or loses, millions of flatbread must be realized

王超蔚:
对手盘也有很多bsv吧[抠鼻]
There’s a lot of BSV on your hands, too.

重水vs铁粉:
没有那么多了，去年币安下架，对方卖掉很多数量
B: not so much. Last year, the COINS were taken off the shelves and they sold a lot of them

hslayj:
对手盘该砸的，分叉的和去年比特大陆的，币安的早砸了，不会等到现在
The opponent dish should be smashed, bifurcated and last year the bitland, the currency of an early smash, will not wait until now

重水vs铁粉:
几乎没什么威胁了
Almost no threat

王超蔚:
一直听闻比特大陆也有百万bsv的
I’ve been hearing that bitland has millions of BSV

重水vs铁粉:
博士手里各百万大饼和bch，够他们喝一壶
The doctor had a million loaves of bread and BCH in his hand, enough for a pitcher of water

昊轩:
只剩下安全问题
Only safety remains

hslayj:
指望政府关停BTC和BCH还是比较难的，就算最后可能关，也要托很久，会有很长的法律诉讼时间，最重要的还是市场反应，是投资人用自己的钱来决定的
It is still difficult to expect the government to shut down BTC and BCH. Even if the final closure is possible, it will take a long time, there will be a long time for legal proceedings, and the most important thing is the market reaction, which is decided by investors with their own money

重水vs铁粉:
币安下架bsv时几乎所有人都认为bsv死定了纷纷抛售，听闻其中就有比特大陆
When coinan pulled BSV from the shelves, almost everyone thought BSV was dead and sold off. They heard that bitcoin was one of them

hslayj:
BTC的逻辑金身是减半永远涨的逻辑，如果这两年这个逻辑被打破了，btc就没人会要了，如果他不能一直涨，又没有啥其他用，大家为什么还要买他
BTC’s logic gold body is the logic of halving forever rise, if this logic is broken in the past two years, BTC no one will want, if he can’t keep rising, and there is no other use, why should we buy him

曾健:
BTC一旦还会涨，是不是更容易一些
Once BTC will go up, is it easier

hslayj:
如果BTC一直还涨，那么可能很多人还是有持有BTC的理由的，直到这个逻辑打破的那一天，也就是BTC养不起矿工的那一天
If BTC continues to rise, then many people may still have a reason to hold BTC until the day this logic breaks down, that is, the day BTC cannot support the miners

hslayj:
btc和bsv的产量逻辑和稀有度逻辑都是一样的，btc能干的bsv都能干，bsv亲和法律、交易费低、无限扩容、全球信用账本，这些功能btc都没有，如果没有永远涨的逻辑，btc在bsv面前就什么都不是
BTC and BSV output logic and rarer logic are the same, BTC capable of BSV are capable of BSV, BSV affinity law, low transaction fees, unlimited expansion, global credit book, these functions BTC is not, if there is no forever rising logic, BTC is nothing in front of BSV

hslayj:
而且btc本身就是一个谎言的集合体，只是不知道这些谎言什么时候被主流投资者接受而已
And BTC itself is a collection of lies, just don’t know when those lies will be accepted by mainstream investors

CHEER不舍:
btc今年减半后矿工成本已经达到10000美元以上 btc不涨的话恐怕要矿难静观其变看市场发展
After BTC halved this year, the cost of miners has reached more than $10,000

曾健:
抛开价格，从应用角度，在当前时候，我们这些BSV小白能做些什么最好
Regardless of the price, from the perspective of application, at the present time, what can we do best BSV white

重水vs铁粉:
等遨游浏览器上链，体验一下
Such as navigation on the browser chain, experience

hslayj:
这个不好说，看个人擅长什么吧，有人做布道和科普，有人做系统开发，有人挖矿，听说coingeek马上会有一个比特币开发培训的课程和认证考试，是否投资是个人决策，我在群里就不说了，免得违反一些规定。
This is difficult to say, to see what the individual is good at, some preach and popular science, some do system development, some mining, heard that coingeek will soon have a bitcoin development training course and certification exam, whether to invest is a personal decision, I will not say in the group, in case of violating some rules.

hslayj:
如果项目好，coingeek和csw博士都有创业基金可以投资生态
If the project is good, both Dr Coingeek and Dr CSW have start-up funds to invest in ecology

昊轩:
小白搞宣传，币价越高算力越多，你的投资越安全
Small white engage in publicity, the higher the price of the more power, the safer your investment

hslayj:
骷髅会的刘博士开发的比特币高级脚本语言据说拿了CA五百万美金的风投
Skull and bones’ advanced scripting language for bitcoin, developed by Dr Liu, reportedly received $5m in venture capital

hslayj:
总之，目前的BSV就是95年的互联网，处在产业爆发的前夜，可能是我们这辈人这辈子最大的机遇了
In short, the current BSV is the Internet of ‘95, on the eve of the industry explosion, which may be the greatest opportunity in the lifetime of our generation

然:
主要是大量资本带动众多韭菜讲btc黄金的故事，大家都深信不疑，就会涨涨涨[愉快]
It is mainly a large amount of capital to drive many leeks to tell the story of BTC gold, everyone believes it, it will go up [happy]

hslayj:
1万美金也就2000亿市值而已，互联网的市值总和是多少，对于区块链和比特币要做的事情来说，现在的币圈就是一个小池塘，根本没有放在CSW中本聪博士的眼里
Ten thousand dollars is the market value of 200 billion dollars. What is the total market value of the Internet? For blockchain and bitcoin to do things, the current coin circle is a small pond, which is not in the eyes of Dr. Bensatsu in CSW

重水vs铁粉:
一旦丢掉市值第一，btc“数字黄金”共识会慢慢退却
Once the market cap is lost, the BTC “digital gold” consensus slowly fades

hslayj:
信用就是现代商业的氧气，而区块链比特币会重新构造现代世界的信用形成过程或获取途径
Credit is the oxygen of modern commerce, and blockchain bitcoin will reconstruct the credit formation process or access in the modern world

然:
对啊，他们都会认为，嗯，还没达到八万亿，还会涨[愉快]
Yeah, they all think, well, it’s not $8 trillion, it’s going to go up.

hslayj:
如果没有中本聪，有可能，但是BSV相当于在BTC主动脉上放了根抽水泵，对于BSVer来说，最大的韭菜就是BTCer
If it wasn’t for satoshi nakamoto, it might be, but BSV is equivalent to putting a pump on the BTC aorta, and for BSVer, the biggest leek is the BTCer

重水vs铁粉:
近期不少大v也开始谈论bsv，关注的人越来越多
Recently many big v also began to talk about BSV, more and more people pay attention to

hslayj:
投资是个人决策，需要自负盈亏的，我说的也不一定对，你听听就好~~
Investment is a personal decision, need to be self-financing, I said is not necessarily right, you listen to good ~~

CHEER不舍:
@hslayj 你觉得区块链国内国外谁会做得更好，哪个环境更好？
Hslayj: who do you think will do better in blockchain, and which environment?

hslayj:
目前肯定是国外好一些，国内被bch带歪了
At present, it must be better in foreign countries, because BCH has taken China awry

hslayj:
我出来做科普，也有这方面的原因，国内有水平又愿意分享的人还是蛮少的，等到这套逻辑大家都懂了，把更多机会留在国内，其实真的懂了BSV的逻辑，其实也没那么难。只是大部分人还是以为CSW是骗子，所以不愿意去倾听和了解而已
I came out to do the science, also have this aspect of the reason, the domestic level and willing to share the people are still very few, wait until this logic is understood, more opportunities to stay in China, in fact really understand the logic of BSV, in fact, it is not so difficult. It’s just that most people still think CSW is a fraud, so they don’t want to listen and understand

hslayj:
其实对自己投资最负责任的做法是，看看BTC、BCH、BSV各自都在干什么、说什么、承诺了什么，之前的承诺变现了没有，多方兼听，才能对自己的投资负责
In fact, the most responsible approach to their own investment is to see what BTC, BCH, BSV each are doing, say what, promised what, the previous commitment is realized, multi-listen, in order to be responsible for their own investment

然:
现状是bsv做的，除比特系外，别的项目也在做，也有亮点
The current situation is BSV, in addition to the bit department, other projects are also doing, there are also highlights

hslayj:
除了BSV，其他的项目所谓的亮点都是产品亮点，BSV做的是生态，和其他项目不在一条赛道上
Apart from BSV, the so-called highlights of other projects are product highlights. BSV does ecology, which is not on the same track as other projects

然:
讨论到这里，就讨论讨论吧，比如以太的defi故事
So much for the discussion, like ETH’s defi story

hslayj:
以太坊是创造资金盘的资金盘，ICO代表的defi是非法融资的代名词,以太坊的成功之路是由投资人的血肉铺成的
Ethereum is the money board that creates the money board, the defi represented by ICO is a synonym for illegal financing, and ethereum’s path to success is paved with the blood of its investors

hslayj:
更别说他本身不是去中心化，他非要说自己去中心化，整天都在改模型、改代码，根本上不了大应用，挖矿模式注定了是巨头垄断模式，以太坊如果觉悟的早，早点转移到BSV上来，然后补充好他的合法性，也许暂时还有点用，如果在POS这条路上走到黑，那么他和他的投资人都不会有明天
Let alone he itself is not decentralization, he must say oneself to decentralized, all day in the code model, the change is, basically no big applications, mining mode is doomed giant monopoly, etheric lane if consciousness of the early, transferred to the BSV up early, and then added the legitimacy of the good he, perhaps temporarily and use point, if the POS this road walk to black, then he and his investors will not have tomorrow

hslayj:
如果BSV能干所有事，为什么我们需要一万条其他的链呢，所以不管他们的产品亮点是什么，只要没有形成产业标准没有上BSV，那么他们就是一个私有链，等待被主链吞并是私有链的唯一归宿
If BSV can do everything, why do we need 10,000 other chains? So no matter what their product highlights are, as long as they don’t form an industry standard and have BSV, then they are a private chain, waiting to be absorbed by the main chain is the only destination of the private chain

hslayj:
eth唯一逻辑成立的前提是比特币是图灵不完备的，无法做智能合约，这是V神前面几年一直强调的事情，但是BSV一扩容，脚本语言、数据库这些产品都出来了，就说明比特币是图灵完备的，根本不需要以太坊在那里自作聪明
The only logical premise for eth is that bitcoin is Turing incomplete, unable to do intelligent contract, which is something that V has been emphasizing for the past few years, but the expansion of BSV, scripting language, database and other products, shows that bitcoin is Turing complete, there is no need for ethereum to be smart

hslayj:
之所以当初的BTC做不了智能合约的唯一原因，是因为Core不愿意扩容，仅此而已
The only reason the original BTC wasn’t a smart contract was because Core didn’t want to expand, that’s all

hslayj:
目前的区块链乱象的根源就是当初BTC不愿意扩容，最后导致很多区块链可以做的事情，人们没办法通过btc做，就只有自己开发私有链、行业链、联盟链，最后万链齐发。而BSV已经证明了无限扩容是可能的，那整个生态乱象最后就会走向万链归一，这个逻辑过程能明白，就明白为什么其他币都是资金盘，都没有存在的必要和土壤，因为人们不需要那么多链，就如同人们只需要一个互联网一样。
The current block chain chaos is the origin of the original BTC is not willing to expand capacity, and finally lead to a lot of block chain can do things, people can not do through BTC, only their own development of private chain, industry chain, alliance chain, and finally all the chain. And BSV has proved that unlimited expansion is possible, that the whole ecological chaos will eventually go to the chain of one, the logical process can understand, understand why other money is money, there is no need and soil, because people do not need so many chains, just like people only need an Internet.

hslayj:
而唯一有勇气号称万链归一并且这么做的人，只有区块链的发明人中本聪本人，其他人甚至口号都不敢喊
The only person with the courage to claim that all chains belong and do so is satoshi nakamoto, the inventor of the blockchain

然:
兄弟认为下一轮牛市爆发的引爆点是什么
What do brothers think is the tipping point for the next bull market

hslayj:
不知道，也许是郁金香，也许是减半，也许是BSV生态中的应用，也许是华尔街的大手笔投资，也许是国家层面的政府支持，也许是法币体系的逃难者，都有可能吧
I don’t know. Maybe it’s tulips, maybe it’s a half, maybe it’s BSV ecology, maybe it’s a big investment by Wall Street, maybe it’s government support at the national level, maybe it’s a runaway from the legal currency system

然:
另外，对于高昂的税收，对于超级富豪而言，对于bsv的拥抱政府的理念，是否不利于他们入场bsv
In addition, for the high taxes, for the super-rich, the idea of embracing the government for BSV, whether it is not good for them to enter BSV

hslayj:
税收是一个国家区域概念，有的地方高税收，就会有地方低税收，最后低税收的地区区块链发展的好，高税收的地区发展的不好，就形成了产业梯度，只要区块链是有价值的，那些产业梯度更高的地区就会成为榜样，最后促使所有地区都降低税收
Tax is a national regional concept, in some places high taxes, there will be local low taxes, the low tax area block the development of the chain is good, high taxes of regional development is not good, it formed the industrial gradient, as long as the chain block is valuable, the region will become the model for the higher industry gradient, finally to promote all regions to reduce taxes

hslayj:
这属于政治层面的博弈论，错过产业创新潮即使对大国来说，都是难以承受的代价,可以参考闭关锁国的大清
This is political game theory, and missing out on a wave of industrial innovation is an unbearable price to pay even for big countries, which can refer to the great qing dynasty

然:
拥有私钥就拥有了一切，任何人任何强权都拿不走，bsv拥抱政府，是否就代表这句话变成假命题了
The possession of the private key is the possession of everything, no one or any power can take it away, BSV embrace the government, whether this sentence has become a false proposition

hslayj:
是的，违法乱纪的人，是会被没收财产的,有私钥也没用
Yes, those who violate the law and discipline will have their property confiscated, and it is useless to have a private key

然:
那这要求法律体系相当相当成熟，
不然，只要谁关系硬，就能欺负你
That requires a fairly sophisticated legal system,
Otherwise, as long as who is hard, can bully you

hslayj:
也不是，我估计最后会有一个联合国区块链委员会来执行各个国家的法律冻结请求，然后统一矿工行为来进行冻结，国家博弈决定这种管控也不会是全方面的，能有国际最小共识就不错了
No, I expect that eventually there will be a UN blockchain committee to implement the legal freeze request of each country, and then the miners’ behavior will be unified to conduct the freeze. The national game will decide that such control will not be comprehensive, and it is good to have a minimum international consensus

hslayj:
估计中国、美国、欧盟、英国的法律权重影响会大一些
It is estimated that the legal weight of China, the United States, the European Union and the United Kingdom will have a greater impact

hslayj:
主要是针对贩毒、反黑、反恐、洗钱、盗窃这种明目张胆的犯罪，如果有政治争议，可能不会那么容易统一意见,实名系统目前还没出来，所以到底怎么样还是在猜测阶段
It is mainly for drug trafficking, anti-black, anti-terrorist, money laundering, theft and other blatant crimes. If there is a political dispute, it may not be so easy to agree