January 9, 2020

比特币经济学 9 : 产业区块链

比特币经济学：基于BitcoinSV的全新视角来重新构想世界经济格局 #

Recreating Economics based on Bitcoin : Reimagining the world economic landscape based on a new perspective of BitcoinSV #

CONTENTS (目录) #

Conversation : 产业区块链 2020.4.22 ～ 4.28 #

hslayj:
今天来聊一聊产业区块链的问题。腾讯、阿里、百度、华为、沃尔玛、脸书、亚马逊、微软、软银、谷歌都是非常牛的公司，有着很好的技术能力与战略发展洞察，我相信他们也有能力开发出非常好的区块链应用软件和落地场景，然而区块链的最终归宿必定是万链归一，原因有以下几个方面。

任何企业发展都有其独特的发展基因，比如腾讯是社交基因，这让他做社交型软件十分的得心应手，然而同样扩展到其它领域就并不一定有用了，即使腾讯的战略眼光足够强，看到了区块链未来的大趋势，但是他的企业基因不一定允许它这么做。比如悬崖上有一块肉，狮子看到了也上不去，力气再大也没用，这块肉可能是被后发现它的乌鸦叼走了，因为乌鸦有翅膀，乌鸦的基因更适合去抢到这块肉，这就是企业的基因能力决定了企业的发展方向，战略能力很多时候无法弥补基因上的不足，更好的战略能力是充分发挥自己的基因优势找到自己地盘上的果实，腾讯之前的拍拍网本质就是这种基因不调产生的企业内部发展失序，而腾讯很明智，放弃了自己下场玩游戏，改为投资入股具备电商基因的京东，好的战略很多时候并不是看得远，而是深切了解什么适合什么不适合，所以当大企业发现自己的企业基因不适合万链归一的时候，他们会成为万链归一的推动者和参与者，因为他们有很好的战略眼光和布局能力。

那么区块链的万链归一需要什么样的生态基因呢？

①:政治中立性，没有任何一个国家愿意把自己的国家安全和信用数据库放到别人手上，所以这几乎就排除掉了所有的中国背景企业，因为意识形态的差异会使得国际社会尤其是西方发达国家天然带有对中国企业的政治歧视，认为中国企业天然具备政治背景是西方世界的刻板印象，美国对华为的态度就是这种刻板印象的具象化表现，而明显带有美国监管色彩的区块链，中国、俄罗斯等非西方国家也同样会有这方面的顾虑，这种政治猜疑链并不需要真凭实据，意识形态的差异也不是短时间能弥合的。

②:协议稳定性，区块链是一个生态，允许万链归一万物上链的前提是一套稳定可预期的规则，这点说起来很容易，做起来几乎难比登天，因为任何一个规则设置，都将面临真实世界的多层博弈环境，一个美联储的2%通胀率就可能带来法币世界层次不穷的博弈困境，可想而知一个稳定的协议设置难度有多大，人类文明历史上能够真正诞生可持续进化的稳定协议是极其稀少的，而细化到技术领域的稳定协议几乎是没有的，因此稳定协议不仅仅是不改协议就完事了，而你的协议是否能在漫长的博弈过程中，保持有效性、平衡性和永续发展性，这一点除了BSV，其它区块链要做到的难度相当于从零开始重新再发明一次比特币、互联网、计算机，这种文明级别的产业创新的出现是极其偶然的，属于妙手偶得之的不可重复动作。

③:时间信用长，信用与技术不同，技术本身只要能解决问题就是好技术，而信用需要时间积累，也就是说，一个好的技术并不能立刻成就区块链体系，仍然需要足够长的积累才能成为信用之源，这也就决定了软件迭代方式不适合区块链的协议开发，因为每一次迭代本质都是打碎了原有的信用框架，而新的信用框架是否能够成功，仍然需要长时间的真实世界观察，而目前来说能够有最长信用时间和信用脉络的只有中本聪的BSV体系。

④:能做所有事，万链归一的意思就是所有区块链能做的事，都应该能被这条主链解决，这也就决定了为了一个行业做的链，最后很难发展成全球的唯一账本，因为能解决一个问题并不代表能解决所有问题，如果不能解决所有问题，那么这个链就永远是等待被收编的链，而目前来说，能够做所有区块链事务的链，只有BSV链，其它链的发展逻辑都是行业起点，慢慢扩容，这种逻辑就带来了几乎不可克服的几个问题，比如跨链逻辑很难克服，跨链逻辑是违反基因规则的，比如我们希望老虎长翅膀，这就是跨链逻辑，但是真的基因中老虎不可能长翅膀，因为基因发展的顺序决定了长翅膀的动物的消化系统、体重系统、进化路径都和老虎不一致。最好的跨链逻辑本质就是万链归一，一开始这个区块链就被设计成能干所有事的公链。

⑤:权力去中心，目前的BSV还没有完全达到这一层，不过目前的区块链体系只有BSV有潜力能够完成权力的去中心化，BTC的权力中心是Core团队，BCH等山寨币的权力中心是协议开发者，美元的权力中心是美联储，如果这个世界一定需要一个中心，那么美联储几乎已经是中心化系统的完美典范了，美联储既顾及到了商业利益，也顾忌到了政治利益，美联储可以说是中心化世界中这几十年世界发展的定海神针，我很难想象一个金融系统中心能够做到如美联储那样理性、克制，但是美联储也不可避免的犯错误，如昨天说的那样，这个世界一旦有权力中心，那么所有的资源都会被权力中心黑洞吸收掉，而权力中心一旦崩溃，整个体系也只能为之殉葬，因此比特币的最大优势去中心化，我认为就是稳定协议带来了权力的去中心化，当所有节点都是可以被淘汰的时候，任何节点的错误都不会放大到整个系统，人们将会很快的找到崩溃节点的替代方案，这为整个世界的底层文明逻辑升级提供了非常好的力量源泉。

⑥:法律亲和性，法律是人类文明发展的结晶，也是文明本身的记忆延续，没有法律体系为人类保驾护航，人类将瞬间跌入黑暗丛林深渊，人与人的合作成本将变得极其高昂，这也就说明了无政府主义者永远走不远的原因。无政府主义者要么成为乌合之众一群散沙，要么沦为独裁者垄断所有社会话语权以此来防止社会分裂，所以无政府主义者甚至比独裁者更加的危险，独裁者还有可能良心发现忧国忧民，而无政府主义者几乎必定导致无序和混乱。没有法律亲和性的匿名币和抗审查币本质都是这种无政府主义的延续，他们觉得只要顾好自己就行了，但是一个国家一旦崩溃，个人能力再优秀也会沦为难民，需要改进的系统也远远好过没有系统，推倒一切的社会改进思路是危险和不负责任的。

所以，万链归一不是说一个行业链发展到老大就可以自行完成的区块链进化逻辑，而是一个在一开始就必须旗帜鲜明、贯彻到底的区块链建设思路，只有万链归一的区块链才能真正具备汇聚所有行业数据维度、广度、深度，成为全球真相的唯一源泉，成为人类保护财富安全和人身安全以及契约安全的诚实信用体系，成为打破所有文明猜忌和隔阂的文明底层框架。
Today we are going to talk about blockchain in the industry. Tencent, baidu, huawei, ali, wal-mart, facebook, amazon, Microsoft, softbank, Google is very cattle company, has a good technical ability and the development strategic insight, I believe they also have the ability to develop very good block chain application software and landing scenario, however, the final home to return to block chain must be belong to a chain, the reasons are the following several aspects.

Any enterprise has its unique development genes, such as tencent is the social gene, this made him do social software is quite handy, but also extended to other areas is not necessarily useful, even if tencent’s strategic vision is strong enough to see the chain blocks, the trend of the future, the enterprise gene but he may not allow it to do so. Have a piece of meat, such as the cliff saw also came to the lion, strength again big also useless, the meat can be found after it crows away, because the crow have wings, crow gene is more suitable for rob to the meat, this is the genetic ability determines the enterprise’s development direction, strategic ability to a lot of time can’t make up for the inadequacy of genes, a better strategy is to give full play to their own genetic advantage find the fruits of their own turf, tencent clap nets essence is the gene to be not moved before the enterprise internal development disorder, and tencent is very wise, gave up next to play games, Instead of investing in electricity gene of jingdong, far good strategy is not a lot of time, but is deeply understand what is suitable for what is not suitable for, so when big companies find their corporate gene is not suitable for all belong to a chain, they will become the promoters and participants to a chain, because they have good capacity for strategic vision and layout.

So what kind of ecological gene is needed for all chain alignment of blockchain?

(1) : political neutrality, no country is willing to put their own national security and credit database in someone else’s hands, so it would rule out almost all the Chinese background of enterprise, because of the ideology difference makes the natural with the international community, especially the western developed countries political discrimination for Chinese enterprises, Chinese companies have natural political background is the stereotype of the western world, the United States to huawei’s attitude is the symbolization of stereotypes, and obviously with us regulatory color block chain, non-western countries such as China, Russia, also can have the concerns, This chain of political suspicion does not require hard evidence, and ideological differences cannot be bridged in a short time.

Stability, (2) : agreement block is an ecological chain, allow all things belong to a chain on the chain is the premise of a stable and predictable rules, which make it sound so easy, almost difficult than ascend day to do it, because any one rule set, will face the real world of multiplayer gaming environment, a 2% inflation rate is likely to bring the fed fiat world level of game, the agreement is a stable set how much difficulty, born in the history of human civilization can truly sustainable evolution of the stability pact is extremely rare, and refinements to the technical field of the stability pact is almost not, So the stability pact is more than just a matter of not change agreement, and you can deal in the long game process, keep the validity, balance and sustainable development, this is in addition to the BSV, the difficulty of the chain to achieve equivalent to other blocks from scratch again another invention COINS, Internet, computer, the emergence of the civilization level of industrial innovation is very occasionally, belongs to not repeat of his inspiration.

(3) : long time credit, credit and technology, the technology itself, as long as can solve the problem is that good technology and credit needs time to accumulate, that is to say, a good technical and not immediately block chain system, still need to be long enough to become the source of credit, it also determines the software development iteration method is not suitable for block chain agreement, because each iteration is broke the original credit framework, and the new credit framework whether can succeed, still need long time to observe in the real world, but for the moment to have the longest time and credit context only this astute in BSV system.

(4) : can do all things, all belong to a chain means what you can do all block chain, should be the main chain, it is made in order to be an industry chain, and finally the only books, it is difficult to develop global because can solve a problem not representative can solve all problems, if you can’t solve every problem, then the chain is always waiting to be collected in the chain, but for now, to be able to do all transaction block chain chain, only the BSV chain and other chain industry is the development logic of starting point, and gradually expanded, such logic has created almost insurmountable several problems, such as cross chain logic is hard to overcome, For example, we want tigers to grow wings, which is called cross-chain logic. But it is impossible for tigers to grow wings in real genes, because the sequence of gene development determines the digestive system, weight system and evolutionary path of animals with wings are not consistent with tigers. The best cross-chain logic is essentially a one-of-a-kind chain, a block chain that is designed to do everything in the first place.

(5) : the power to the center, the BSV is still not fully achieve this layer, but the current block only BSV chain system have the potential to complete the decentralization of power, the power of the BTC center is the Core team, BCH counterfeit currency such as the power center of developers is the agreement, the power of the dollar centre was the federal reserve, if the world will need a center, the fed has almost is a perfect example of the centralized system, the fed is concerned about commercial interests, also about the political interests, the fed is centralized in the world that the development of the world for decades anchored, I find it hard to imagine a centre of the financial system to be as rational as the federal reserve, restraint, but the fed also inevitably make mistakes, as said yesterday, once the world has the authority center, then all resources will be absorbed power central black hole, and once the power center collapse, the entire system is only human, so the currency the biggest advantage of decentralization, I think that is the stability pact has brought the decentralization of power, when all the nodes can be eliminated, any node fault will not enlarge to the entire system, people will soon find alternative collapse node, This provides a very good source of power for the logical upgrade of the underlying civilization of the whole world.

: the affinity of law, law is the crystallization of the development of human civilization, but also the memory of civilization itself, there is no legal system to protect the human race, the human race will instantly fall into the dark jungle abyss, the cost of cooperation between people will become extremely high, this also explains the anarchists will never go far. Anarchists can either become a rabble or a dictator who monopolizes all social discourse in order to prevent social disintegration, so anarchists are even more dangerous than dictators, who may have conscience concerns about their country and their people, and anarchists almost certainly lead to disorder and chaos. Without legal affinity anonymous COINS and fight censorship coin essence is the continuation of the anarchism, they feel just on yourself, but once a country collapse, again good also can refugees as personal ability, to improve system are far better than no, knocking down all social improvement ideas are dangerous and irresponsible.

So, all is not to say that an industry chain development belongs to a chain to the eldest brother can accomplish on their own evolutionary logic block chain, but it is a must carry a clear-cut stand, at the outset what block chain construction train of thought, only a chain unto a block chain can really have gathered all industry data dimensions, breadth, depth, to become the world the truth, the only source of human wealth protection safety and personal safety and security system of honesty and credit of contract, a suspicion to break all civilization and separation of the underlying framework of civilization.

Aus.Liu:
我最近认为有意思的一点，是在当前政治下的法币，实质上可以看作是PoS的。即便法币最初的意图可能相对中立，但是逐渐形成的利益集团本身又会在政治层面上影响法币。体现在比如说结构性的通货膨胀。法币的模式或许可以和PoS互相参考
One of the things that I think is interesting recently is that in today’s politics, fiat money can actually be viewed as an PoS. Even though fiat money’s initial intentions may be relatively neutral, the growing interest groups themselves can influence it politically. Take, for example, structural inflation. The mode of legal coin may be referred to by PoS

刘晔律师:
法币或POS从创造之初便不中立，从基因起便巳种下癌症。
Fiat money or POS is not neutral from the beginning of creation, from the gene has been planted cancer.

Aus.Liu:
PoW相对PoS是新生事物，在此之前，包括货币在内的自由市场是难以捍卫自己的。自由市场产生了托拉斯这样的巨头，这种巨头迅速和政治权力融合在一起，反过来干涉自由市场。于是世界经济再次被扭曲为服务于少数人的一块一块的受管制的市场。这是资本主义走向帝国主义的过程，因为没有足够坚定的力量能阻止政治权力，自由竞争的市场走向差序的牢固的利益分配格局。PoW或可阻止这一点。
PoW is relatively new to PoS, and before that, free markets, including currencies, were hard to defend. Free markets gave rise to giants such as trusts, which quickly merged with political power and in turn interfered with free markets. And the world economy is once again being distorted into a patchwork of regulated markets for a few. This is the process of capitalism moving towards imperialism, because there is no firm enough force to prevent political power, and the free competitive market moves towards a firm pattern of differential distribution of interests. PoW may prevent this.

TsiMing Ho:
我视频分析过，pow是最高效的熵减手段，其他任何方案都没有pow稳定
I have analyzed in the video that pow is the most efficient means of entropy reduction, and no other scheme is as stable as pow

刘晔律师:
POW是地球上的黑洞
POW is a black hole on earth

邱少贤:
对的，POW是地球上的黑洞。文章最后一句说了，比特币 SHA256 矿机挖矿所消耗电力的是资源，Metanet 上不断积累的信息亦是资源。如今，一方面 BSV 内修贤德不断提升以容纳万物，另一方面中本聪初心不改坚持不懈欲以正其名义，萝卜与大棒双管齐下，距离 BTC 这个庞氏骗局泡沫破灭还有多久呢？让我们拭目以待。
Right, POW is the black hole on earth. The power consumed by the SHA256 mining machine is a resource, and the information accumulated on Metanet is also a resource. How long will it be before the bubble of the BTC ponzi scheme bursts? Let’s wait and see.

hslayj:
法币是金属货币没落后的最好的中心化货币，民间商号的银票等代币本身的准备金风险更大，因为别人不知道他们的准备金率是多少，他们只能通过增加沉没成本（高档次装修、增加网络节点）和提高利息来吸储，而不管是增加沉没成本也好还是提高利息也好，都有可能是以牺牲准备金率为代价，到头来可能很大的商号一夜之间就倒闭了，这就使得金融体系的可靠性很小、交易摩擦很大、商号挤兑时有发生，因此通过国家范围的信用，统一消除金融安全猜疑链，确立最小准备金制度，是几乎所有国家的理性选择，法币本身是有其历史的根源性和有效性的。但是法币也摆脱不了所有中心化体系的弊端，其本身也有生命周期，生命早期蓬勃发展，生命中期博弈不断，生命末期楼倒众人推，法币后期的通胀其实不是利益集团使然，而是如果它不这么做，整个体系就崩溃了，所以拯救法币体系的尝试是没用的，就和让人长生不老一样，正确的做法就是创造一套新的不依赖旧体系的信任体系，完成信任体系的和平过度，这也就是BSV诺亚方舟论的意思。
Fiat is the best centralized currency, metal currency behind not private firms of silver ticket such as tokens, itself reserves risk bigger, because people don’t know how much is their reserve requirements, they can only by increasing the sunk costs (high grade decoration, increase network nodes) and raise interest rates to deposit-taking, whether increase the sunk cost or increase interest, is likely to be at the expense of the reserve requirement ratio at the expense of, in the end may be large firms collapsed overnight, this makes the reliability of the financial system is small, the trade friction is very big, firm runs, so through the national credit, It is the rational choice of almost all countries to eliminate the financial security chain of suspicion and establish the minimum reserve system. But fiat also can’t get away from all the disadvantages of centralized system, its itself also has a life cycle, early life to flourish, mid game life, life, the end of the floor pour all fiat inflation is not interest group in the late, but if it does not do so, the whole system collapses, so save fiat system it was useless to try, and let people live forever, like the right thing to do is to create a new set of does not rely on the old system of trust system, complete trust system excessive of peace, this also is the meaning of the BSV theory of Noah’s ark.

吉澤光喜:
果然最后的竞争对象是法币,这个bsn和dcep我记得去年的分析抄袭了不少bsv的技术
Sure enough, the last competitor is fiat currency. I remember that the analysis of BSN and dcep last year copied many technologies of BSV

hslayj:
BSV本身是基于矿工的对等网络，BSN最多是一个基于国家许可的准入式网络；BSV有很明显的政治中性，BSN是一个典型的单一国家主导项目；BSV的未来是去权力中心的生态发展论，BSN不管怎么发展仍然是一个中心化权力的抓手；BSV的信用来源来自多维度多主体的数据相互比对后的诚实信用，BSN的信用来源是大企业大政府的数据权威信用；BSV的竞争策略是效率领先的市场竞争策略，BSN的竞争策略更多是政治优先的政治战略延伸；BSV是一种全新的国际现代金融秩序，BSN是中国多链博弈的技术整合方案；BSV的上限是重构人类底层权力逻辑框架，BSN的上限是国家政治敏感数据局域网。表面上看起来是同一个东西，其实本质是两种物种。
BSV itself is a peer-to-peer network based on miners, while BSN is at best an access network based on state permission. BSV is obviously politically neutral, and BSN is a typical project dominated by a single country. The future of BSV is the theory of ecological development without power center. No matter how BSN develops, it is still a grip of centralized power. The credit source of BSV is the honest credit of multi-dimensional multi-subject data compared with each other. The credit source of BSN is the authoritative credit of large enterprises and governments. BSV’s competitive strategy is the market competitive strategy with leading efficiency, while BSN’s competitive strategy is more an extension of political strategy with political priority. BSV is a new international modern financial order, and BSN is the technical integration scheme of China’s multi-chain game. The upper limit of BSV is to reconstruct the logic framework of human power, and the upper limit of BSN is the LAN of national politically sensitive data. It looks like the same thing, but it’s really two species.

AB型:
啥时候出个锚定美元的数字货币用bsv就行了
Whenever you have a digital currency anchored to the dollar, use BSV

Stephen周:
迟早的。货币永远往交易成本低的渠道上迁移。想想USDT为什么要从BTC迁移到ETH又到TRX，不就是因为交易成本。这个趋势不会停的
Sooner or later. Currencies will always migrate to lower transaction costs. Think about why USDT moved from BTC to ETH to TRX because of transaction costs. This trend will not stop

hslayj:
现在之所以BSV还没有爆发，主要是因为区块链产业还在补贴期，没有进入商用落地阶段，传统的大公司、先知先觉的政府、八仙过海的风投机构以及对区块链产业不明觉厉的跟投韭菜为这个行业注入了大量的补贴，因此只要有个名字的区块链都感觉黄袍加身、天下在握。然而区块链产业如果真正落地了，用户关心的是什么：
1，交易成本是不是足够便宜，这基本就淘汰了BTC这样的小块链。
2，交易速度是不是足够快速，这基本就淘汰了ETH这样的串联计算资源模式。
3，区块链的应用市场是否足够大，这基本就淘汰了很多单一功能链。
4，区块链的法制化是否足够规范，这基本就淘汰了BCH、门罗币这类匿名币和抗审查链。
5，区块链的裁判规则是否足够国际化，这基本就淘汰了政治倾向过于明显的国家链。
6，区块链的数据维度是否足够多从而能带来更大的信用加持，这基本就淘汰了所有大企业主导的行业链。
7，区块链的环境是否可持续进化，这基本就淘汰了基于POS机制的股权投票链。
8，区块链的技术合法性是否有保障，这基本就淘汰了完全不做专利建设的私有链。
9，区块链的信用体系是否在时间维度上有可持续性，这基本就淘汰了只能靠补贴生存的绝大部分链。
有钱的时候，谁看起来都像领袖，退潮了，才知道谁在裸泳，真正了解了BSV的逻辑，才能深刻理解区块链领域的未来和过去，区块链在各行各业真正落地的时候，BSV的技术结构和中本聪愿景的优势才能在每一次交易细节中体现，在此之前，群魔乱舞的王婆卖瓜时代估计还要持续一阵子。
Now the BSV no explosion, mainly because the chain block industry also in subsidies, did not enter the commercial landing stage, the traditional big companies, clairvoyance, ensemble of vc institutions of government and of unknown sleep folded block chain industry and leek inject a large amount of subsidies to the industry, so as long as there is a name of chain blocks are feeling now, and the world. However, if the blockchain industry is truly established, what users care about is:

Whether the transaction cost is cheap enough, it basically eliminates the small chain like BTC.
Whether the transaction speed is fast enough, this basically eliminates the series computing resource mode like ETH.
Whether the application market of blockchain is large enough, it basically eliminates many single functional chains.
Whether the legalization of block chain is standard enough, which basically eliminates the anonymous currency such as BCH and munro currency and the anti-censorship chain.
Whether the judging rules of blockchain are internationalized enough, which basically eliminates the national chain with too obvious political tendency.
Whether there are enough data dimensions of blockchain to bring more credit support, it basically eliminates all the industry chains dominated by large enterprises.
The sustainable evolution of the block chain environment basically eliminates the equity voting chain based on POS mechanism.
Whether the technical legality of blockchain is guaranteed, it basically eliminates the private chain that does not do patent construction at all.
Whether the credit system of blockchain is sustainable in the time dimension, which basically eliminates most chains that can only survive on subsidies. Rich of time, who looks like a leader, ebb tide, just know who’s been swimming naked, really understand the logic of BSV, to understand the future and the past in the field of block chain, chain blocks in all walks of life really fall to the ground, the astute vision in BSV technology structure and advantages can be embodied in every transaction details, before that, the claims of the spooky: time estimated to last for a while.

hslayj:
主链之争，我不觉得中国的腾讯、阿里有很多机会，不过行业应用应该也有巨头级别的机会，就和互联网出来以后，很多互联网生态公司就抢占了先机，BSV主要的对比是互联网，链上生态主要对应的是互联网上的各种应用生态，这是我的理解。

生态是可以移植的，比如中国BSN把区块链的产业主链给统一起来，那么下面的公司可能就主抓行业应用建设了，如果以后BSN不行了，行业应用的落地逻辑、生态逻辑、利润逻辑、产业链逻辑都做好了，直接就可以换到更具备发展潜力的主链上来。

保险是可以写成智能合约的，房产的确权也可以通过链上资源完成，这可以增加保险的公信力，也可以给政府节省一大笔自己维护服务器的成本，这类应用很多的，只要有公共信息的领域，都有信任和成本的问题，区块链主要就是解决这方面问题的。

阿里、腾讯解决的是区块链产业的工程和商业的问题，BSV体系解决的是人类文明底层逻辑的问题，问题维度不一样、解决难度是不可同日而语的，可以和BSV相提并论的发明可能有纸张、蒸汽机、计算机、互联网，而工程创新问题每年都是数以万记的，随便一个本科毕业生可能都能申请一堆。
Main chain, tencent, ali I don’t think China has a lot of opportunities, but should also have the chance to giant level, industry application and Internet come out later, many Internet ecological head, BSV major contrast is the Internet, ecological chain is the main corresponding on the Internet all kinds of applied ecology, this is my understanding.

Ecology can be transplanted, such as the Chinese state-controlled bharat sanchar nigam to block the main chain of the chain of industry to unify, the following construction company might focus on industry application, if after the state-controlled bharat sanchar nigam washed-up, industry application logic of logic, the industrial chain, ecological logic, profits are ready, directly can change to have the development potential of main chain.

Insurance is a contract can be written as intelligence, property right verification can also be done through the chain resources, it can increase the credibility of insurance, can also be for the government to save a lot of the cost of maintenance of server, a lot of this kind of application, as long as there is the realm of public information, there are trust and cost problems, block chain is mainly to solve the problem.

Ali, tencent is to solve the block chain industry engineering and business problems of BSV system solve the problems of the is the underlying logic of human civilization, dimensions is not the same, solve the difficulty is far, can be compared with BSV invention may be paper, steam engine, computer, Internet, and the engineering innovation problems is tens of thousands every year, literally a graduate may can apply for a heap.

AB型:
阿里腾讯专利跟博士的没有一点冲突的几率吗
Is there any chance of any conflict between ali and tencent’s patent and doctor’s

刘晔律师:
区块链领域产生几万几十万个专利毛毛雨吧
There are tens of thousands of patents in the blockchain field

hslayj:
一般申请国际专利的时候会有专利审查，如果有冲突的话，新专利不会通过，会进行退回或者修改，因此只要是国际专利，分界线是比较明确的，如果真有专利冲突，一般大公司的做法也是尽可能的减少法律冲突，通过专利权交换或者专利权使用费的方式来达到双赢，真正做到那个位子上了，一般都是考虑怎么合作怎么共赢的问题了。
When there will be a international patent applications in patent examination, and if there is conflict, new patents will not pass, will be withdrawn or modified, so as long as it is the international patent, dividing line is clear, if there is a patent conflict, the practice of big companies are commonly as far as possible reduce the conflict of laws, through the exchange of the patent right or patent royalties way to achieve a win-win situation, really the seat, are generally considered how to how a win-win cooperation.

hslayj:
BSN本身是个好战略，可以整合区块链领域的正规力量，可以给合法区块链企业打上身份标签，可以让行业链有一个统一竞争平台，可以让整个区块链行业有一个国际抢跑机会，可以共享各种区块链优势资源，可以为早期区块链应用提供信用背书，。不过做到最后大概率也和国家外经贸网与人民搜索的命运差不多，政治挂帅的创新项目很多时候都难逃基因适应性慢的特点，能有个过度作用，让中国的区块链行业应用有个训练场地就算达成历史使命了。
State-controlled bharat sanchar nigam itself is a good strategy, can be integrated block chain in the field of normal force, can give a legal identity labels on block chain enterprises, can let the industry chain has a unified competition platform, can make the whole block has a false start international chain industry opportunities, can share various block chain advantage resources, can provide credit endorsement for early application block chain,. However, the final probability is similar to the fate of the national foreign trade network and the people’s search. In many cases, the innovation projects that take the lead in politics cannot escape the characteristics of slow genetic adaptability and can play an excessive role, so that the application of the block chain industry in China can have a training site to achieve the historic mission.

AB型:
怎么会让阿里腾讯平安抢前面去了,怕以后被他们压制住
How to let ali tencent ping an steal to the front, afraid of being suppressed by them later

hslayj:
区块链在具体行业应用的专利是申请不完的，谁人多谁占优势。榜单上没有欧盟的，你猜以后欧盟是用中国链还是美国链，币圈是有币无链生态，链圈是有生态没币，都是阉割版的BSV，阉割的本质都是“我们需要一个诚实的世界，除了掌握规则的人以外。”
Block chain in the specific industry application of the patent is endless, who has the advantage. There is no eu on the list, you can guess whether the eu will use the Chinese chain or the American chain in the future. The coinage circle is the coinage without chain ecology, and the coinage circle is the coinage without chain ecology, which is the castration version of BSV. The essence of castration is “we need an honest world, except those who master the rules.

AB型:
就是说要想币圈跟链圈结合只有bsv能做到了
It means that only BSV can combine the coinage with the chain chain

hslayj:
目前来看，是的，除非BSV体系遭遇政治迫害或者区块链长久找不到应用场景，这些概率出现的可能都不算大，但仍然需要考虑进风险因素。
At present, yes, unless the BSV system suffers political persecution or blockchain fails to find applications for a long time, these probabilities may not be large, but risk factors still need to be considered.

Dt:
阿里和腾讯申请数量多而已，授权率其实很低
The number of applications from alibaba and tencent is large, the authorization rate is actually very low

hslayj:
无币区块链的基础设施激励是个大问题，最后肯定还是要靠主链的项目建设方来主持基础设施升级，而区块链本身其实是不应该给一个中心化组织长期贡献利润，所以这种架构会陷入类似BCH矿工税那样的死循环，保住了链逻辑，生态会死，保住了生态建设逻辑，链上成本就会高企，最后输掉主链之争，上链成本问题是除BSV外的体系一个永远绕不过去的坎，一个好的结构应该是有非常好的外部延展性和环境适应性的，一旦用复杂化的思路解决问题，问题就会变得越来越复杂，最后被自己的复杂性搞死，简单性对于公共平台来说是十分重要的。
No currency block incentives is a big problem, the infrastructure must ultimately depends on the main chain of the project project owner to host infrastructure upgrades, and block chain itself was given a centralized organization should not be long-term contribution to profits, so this kind of architecture of like BCH tax miners dead circulation, keep the logic chain, ecological die, keep the ecological construction of logic, the cost will be high, in the chain of finally lost the main chain, chain cost problem is besides BSV system on a never around in the past, a good structure should be a very good ductility and environment adaptability, Once the problem is solved with complex thinking, the problem will become more and more complex, and finally be killed by its own complexity. Simplicity is very important for the public platform.

hslayj:
诚实世界的逻辑和权力世界的逻辑本来就是相互冲突的，想要谁都不得罪就把新体系做出来，这是大企业建设的一贯思路，但是新生行业很多时候不是自然线性长出来的，而是颠覆式创新把原有世界的逻辑干翻在地然后才能完成的新王上位，想当年阿里不也是干掉了传统线下零售模式才顺利上位，腾讯也是踩着电信运营商的脑袋才成就了今天的社交王国么，所以才说新的领域需要新的基因，而老企业的基因已经定型了，力量并不能解决所有问题。

区块链的主链逻辑在2008年白皮书就已经确定了，所以真正需要保护的核心专利数量一定是十分有限的，我记得Shadders接受采访的时候说自己的任务是让自己尽快退休，这也说明了主链逻辑的建设基本已经完结了，再多的技术可能解决的是一些工程难题或者行业链问题，属于区块链在各个领域的分支建设，这本来就是八仙过海各显神通的事情，以后链上生态建设的战场不一定比现在的币圈战场差，腥风血雨、资本屠刀、新旧交替也会是生态成长的常态现象。
Honest world of logic and the logic of the world power is conflicting, want not to offend anyone is to put the new system, this is the consistent idea of the construction of large enterprises, but the new industry a lot of time not grow natural linear, but the logic of the original world subvert our innovation in a dry and then to complete the new king of upper, think that year ali not only kill the traditional offline retail mode smoothly, tencent is also standing on telecom operators only achievements of today’s social Wang Guome head, so that new field need new genes, and the genes of old enterprise has finalized the design, power and can’t solve every problem.

Blocks in the main chain of the chain of logic has been identified, the white paper in 2008, so the real need to protect the core must have very limited number of patents, I remember Shadders said in an interview his task is to let his retirement as soon as possible, it also suggests that the construction of the main chain logic is basically over, no amount of technology can solve the issues of some engineering problems or industry chain, to block chain in each branch in the field of construction, it is sea situation, after the ecological construction in the chain of battlefield not worse than now COINS ring battlefield, Bloodletting, capital butcher’s knife, old and new alternate also can be the normal phenomenon of ecological growth.

AB型:
可不可以理解为，比如盖房子我们把所有房子的库型跟房子格局都弄了专利，他们怎么盖用什么材料盖细节怎么操作是他们的事，只要楼盖好最后屋子都会用到咱们申请的库型专利
Can you think of it as, for example, building a house, we have a patent on the library type and the layout of all the houses, how they build it, what materials they use to build it, how they do it, how they do it, as long as the floor is finished, the house will use the library type patent we applied for

hslayj:
可以这么理解，BSV本身只是一种数据网络结构和数据交换方式，具体到真实世界中，数据怎么上链、怎么走业务流程、怎么实现数据多维度的交互、怎么形成长久的数据信用、怎么实现业务逻辑的变现、怎么完成数据逻辑的升级，这都需要链上生态在不断竞争和试错中完成，数据来源维度越多、数据上传主体越多、数据量积累越大、数据累计时间越长、虚假数据的追责体系越完善，数据的诚实可能性就越大，发展到最后就会成为全球的唯一真相来源，只有这种力量才可能超越政治逻辑和暴力逻辑，最后通过诚实治愈人类固有的敌对和猜疑，完成文明的底层逻辑升级，由暴力转向诚实。没有全球的唯一账本，多账本间的控制体系主体就永远不可能放下对竞争者的敌意，唯一的真相也就无从谈起，说来说去，最后还是看谁的拳头硬、谁的钱多而已，通往诚实的路只能由诚实本身铸就。
Can understand so, BSV itself is a kind of network structure and the way of data exchange, data specific to the real world, how the data on the chain, how to get to the business process, how to implement the data multi-dimensional interaction, how to develop long-term credit data, how to implement the business logic of the cash, how to complete the data logical upgrades, this requires chain ecological completed in constant competition and trial and error, the more dimension data source, data upload the main body, the greater the amount of data accumulation, the more the longer data accumulated, false data accountability system more perfect, the more likely it is that the data is honest In the end, the development will become the only source of truth in the world. Only this power can transcend the political logic and the logic of violence, and finally heal the inherent hostility and suspicion of human beings through honesty, and complete the upgrading of the underlying logic of civilization from violence to honesty. Without the only account of the world, the subject of the control system between multiple accounts will never be able to put down the hostility to the competitors, the only truth is also not to talk about, said to go, finally or see who’s hard, who has more money, the road to honesty can only be forged by the honesty itself.

hslayj:
今天是Winklevoss兄弟和BM的两边站队，明天就是李笑来和吴忌寒这些早期参与者的犹豫不定，后天就是币圈的曾经大V的蜂拥而至，最后就是币圈韭菜们的悔不当初，Winklevoss兄弟都倒戈了，多米诺骨牌的第一张已经开始倒下了。
Today is Winklevoss brothers and BM on both sides of the line, tomorrow is li xiaolai and wu jihan these early participants of the uncertainty, the day after tomorrow is the coinage of the once big V of the rush to the end is the coinage of leeks regret not at the outset, Winklevoss brothers have switched sides, the first domino has begun to fall.

昊轩:
BM站队了？
BM is in line?

hslayj:
BM之前说比特币不一定就特指BTC，他投资了一部分BSV对冲中本聪风险。
BM has previously said that bitcoin does not necessarily refer to BTC in particular, and that he has invested part of BSV to hedge nakamoto satoshi risk.

厚德载物:
更多的人在改变自己对BSV的看法
More people are changing their minds about BSV

hslayj:
不去读BSV的逻辑，区块链的很多细节是经不起推敲的，比如怎么才算行业标准的胜出标准，比如链补贴消失后链会怎样，比如怎么应对密码学漏洞带来的财富丢失问题，比如区块链和法律的关系，比如什么才是去中心化及其意义是什么，比如如何看待国家和区块链的关系，比如跨链逻辑到底应该以什么为标准，比如比特币怎么保证其不可替代性，这些答案只有读懂BSV才能彻底明白，所以BSV并不仅仅是因为中本聪本人而精彩，而是它本身就是区块链产业的葵花宝典下半册，让世人知道CSW的中本聪身份也并不仅仅是一种图腾崇拜，而是让所有人有机会真正了解区块链是什么的真正契机，当大家都愿意了解BSV体系的真相的时候，万链归一的产业趋势也就真正开始了。
Don’t read the BSV logic, many of the details of the chain block is a thin, like how to just calculate win the standard industry standards, such as how will disappear after the chain chain subsidies, such as how to deal with cryptography wealth loss problem, such as block chain and legal relationship, such as what is what is decentralized and significance, such as how to think about relationship and chain blocks, such as what logic across the chain should be as the standard, such as COINS how to guarantee its irreplaceability, thoroughly understand the answers to these questions, only read BSV, so the BSV is not just because of this our himself and wonderful, But it is itself a block chain industry of sunflower treasure dian the second half of the book, let the world know this astute in CSW’s identity is not merely a kind of totem worship, but to make all people have the opportunity to really understand what block chain is really an opportunity, when everyone would like to know the truth of the BSV system, chain unto a industry trends is really began.

远走高飞:
BSV社区需要纠正一件事：态度。这种沾沾自喜的的做法是不恰当的、不专业的。这种消极情绪已经把那些本可以构建或支持下一代应用程序的人赶走了。
The BSV community needs to correct one thing: attitude. This smug approach is inappropriate and unprofessional. This negativity has driven away those who could have built or supported the next generation of applications.

荣哥理财师:
恰恰相反，BSV没有社区，只有社会。你要觉得bsv应该怎么样？你可以构建自己的社区
On the contrary, BSV has no community, only society. What do you think of BSV? You can build your own community

hslayj:
本质上，BSV社区的唯一共识可能就是中本聪2008年的白皮书了，各色各样的什么人都有，对BSV的认识和构想也不一定一样，有实干派的认为理论都是扯淡，撸起袖子干就完事了；有理论派的，认为瞎子摸象不行，先打好理论基础才行；有吃瓜派的，随便买点揣兜里，坐坐顺风车就好；有怨念派的，认为BSV跟我想的不一样，中本聪变心了，我也不跟他好了；有阶级派的，认为社区应该论资排辈有先来后到之分。社区越大，这种参差多态就越大，把握好自己的初心，不要让不好的声音影响了自己的脚步，想好自己想做什么、能做什么是最重要的事情。
In essence, the only consensus in the BSV community is probably satoshi nakamoto’s 2008 white paper. All kinds of people have the same understanding and conception of BSV. Those who have theories think that it is impossible for a blind man to touch an elephant. Some people eat melon and pie, just buy some pockets and take a ride. Those who complained that BSV was not the same as I thought, and that satoshi nakamoto had changed his mind. There are those who think that the community should have a first-come-first-served approach according to seniority. The bigger the community is, the greater this kind of diversity is. Grasp your original intention, don’t let the bad voice affect your steps, think about what you want to do, what you can do is the most important thing.

远走高飞:
所以呢我觉得现在的BSV缺乏一个点打破这个点会进入另外的一个天地，并不是不愿意去推动BSV的良性发展，相反有很多人是有心无力缺乏一个主观意识的大局方向
Therefore, I think that the current BSV lacks a point to break this point and will enter another world. It is not that we are unwilling to promote the benign development of BSV, on the contrary, there are many people who have the heart and are unable to lack a subjective consciousness of the overall direction

hslayj:
这其实就是我想在这个群做的事情，捋顺BSV与真实世界的关系，捋顺政治、经济、历史、技术与BSV体系的共鸣之处，等到风来的时候，可能新的投资者就更愿意去接受一个新的声音和一个新的思路，在僵死的现实世界中说不定就能找到一条新的出路，风来了的时候，我估计就是CSW中本聪身份正名的时候，在此之前，我们做好自己的事情，夯实BSV体系的理论基础和建设框架，这会让后来者少走很多弯路，千里之行始于足下，一个新世界的诞生，是需要很多很多人的不断贡献完成的，我也同意你的观点，BSV社区需要尽可能的包容不明真相的群众，仅仅靠现在这一小波人是成不了事的。
This is what I want to do in this group, sequence BSV relationship with the real world, sequence politics, economy, history, technology, and the resonance of the BSV system, when the wind came, might be more willing to accept new investors is a new voice and a new train of thought, in the real world of zombie maybe you can find a new way, the wind came, I estimate that this is the CSW chung identity name, before this, we do our own things, strengthen the BSV system framework, theoretical foundation and construction of this will allow others to walk a lot less detours, every journey begins with a single step, The birth of a new world requires the continuous contributions of many, many people, and I agree with you that the BSV community needs to accommodate as many people as possible who don’t know the truth.

hslayj:
投资者、建设者、普通参与者、政治家、企业家、学者等等，每一重身份背后都有着现实的参与意义和可能的延展方向，现代股份制的建立，就是把普通参与者拉入到了资本游戏中，给原有的体系注入了多大的活力是可以考证的，因此注重普通人的参与度是一个成熟金融体系必须考量的关键要素，纯粹的精英主义我也是不太赞成的。

BSV体系本质是一个基于所有生态参与者的对等网络，是一个开放的持续进化平台，对于一个真正了解去中心化意义的组织来说，最好的方式是尽可能早的参与这个网络的建设，而不是另起炉灶、打造另外一个对等网络，网络效应在这种平台上是非常明显的，第一名统领群雄，第二名汤都喝不到是区块链平台的最终宿命。我们试想如果腾讯的发票系统和沃尔玛的供应链系统都是在BSV上开发的，那么其实全世界的发票上链体系和零售供应链上链体系就可以被这两套系统标准化，而他们自己做的结果就是，他们只能在自己的存量用户上去推广他们的行业链，更别说把发票系统和供应链系统通过数据接口打通了，这就是体系差异带来的信息孤岛对区块链体系的阻碍，而一旦大公司看到了这种趋势的发展，一个全球性的区块链标准势必就会提上日程，就如同很多早期的局域网最终都汇聚成了互联网是一个道理，有互联网的产业思路在前，区块链的发展周期应该会快得多，很多时候一个点想通了，一个新的世界可能就诞生了，缺乏的只是让传统大佬看过来的契机而已。
Investors, builders, ordinary actors, politicians, entrepreneurs, academics, etc., the participation of each identity behind has practical significance and the extension direction of may, the establishment of a modern joint-stock is to pull the ordinary participants into the capital to the game, to how much activity into the original system can be textual research, pay attention to the participation of common people, therefore, is a mature financial system must take account of the key elements of the pure elitism I also don’t approve of.

BSV system is essentially a peer-to-peer networks, based on all ecological participants is an open platform for the continued evolution, for a truly understand the meaning of decentralized organization, it is the best way as early as possible to participate in the construction of the network, rather than start to build another peer-to-peer networks, network effects on this platform is very obvious, first place at the head of the pack, the second drink soup is less than is the ultimate fate of block chain platform. We just think if tencent’s invoice and wal-mart’s supply chain system is developed on the BSV, so in fact the world chain system and chain retail supply chain system on the invoice can be both sets of system standardization, and themselves as a result, they can only in their stock of users to promote their industry chain, and not to mention the invoice system and through data interface through the supply chain system, this is the information system difference island to block chain system obstacles, and once saw the trend for the development of large companies, a global chain block standard certainly will will be on the agenda, Just as it is true that many of the early lans eventually converge into the Internet, the development cycle of blockchain should be much faster with the industrial thinking of the Internet in front of it. In many cases, a new world may be born when a point is reached. What is lacking is the opportunity to let the traditional masters see it.

hslayj:
行业链之间的竞争，最终的胜负手其实是看谁最终占据了BSV体系的生态位，完成了该体系的数据标准化定义工作，否则各种行业链各唱各的是觉不出高下的，而没有利益攸关方的行业参与者，肯定更愿意采用适用性更为广泛的行业标准和数据标准，这就会使得首先占据BSV体系生态位的企业的行业领先地位被全世界的参与者所加持，具备了该领域的龙头地位和行业标准定义权，这就是BSV生态对所有行业参与者的巨大吸引力，这是下一个时代的巨大风口，首先看到的企业将拥有下一个时代渡轮的船票，而船票是有限的，先来先得、多劳多得、能者为先的，所以对于所有聪明人来说，这是一个一旦枪响，就不得不参与的时代竞赛。

在企业竞争维度，阿里链、IBM链、沃尔玛链、腾讯链、华为链、脸书链、谷歌链、微软链不管发展成什么样，他们都很难吃掉彼此，因为彼此的能力维度是重合的，都是基于现代企业投入的研发能力、产品能力和市场营销能力，而只有基于中本聪的最原始协议的BSV才在伦理上具备一统群雄、让天下人闭嘴的皇族血统，因为中本聪才是把区块链带到这个世界的最终源头，这也是BSV万链归一的血脉赋予的道德优势，这也是为什么很多币圈人希望BSV死掉的原因，皇族不死，一日不可言篡位，否则就是天下所背，人人得而诛之的叛逆。
Competition between industry chain, the final triple substitutions are actually see who dominated the BSV system of niche, the definition of the system data standardization work, or various industry chain each sing is out of, rather than stakeholders of industry participants, would be more willing to adopt the applicability broader industry standards and data standard, this will make the first occupy the BSV system ecological niche of enterprises of industry leading position is blessing by participants from all over the world, has a leading position and industry standards in the field of the defined rights, this is the BSV ecological appeal to all industry participants, This is the great wind of the next era, the first to see the business will have the next era of ferry tickets, and tickets are limited, first come, first served, first served, first served, so for all the smart people, this is a gunshot, have to participate in the race of the era.

Chain in enterprise competitive dimensions, ali, IBM, chain, wal-mart chain, tencent chain, the chain of huawei, face book chain, the chain of Google, Microsoft chain to develop into whatever kind, they can be hard to eat each other, because the dimension is the ability of overlap each other, are based on the research and development capabilities, products of modern enterprise investment ability and marketing ability, and only based on the power of the original agreement in BSV just shut up on ethics have unify pack, let everybody’s royal descent, because this power is in the block chain to the ultimate source of the world, this is the BSV chain unto a blood relation of giving moral advantage, This is also why many people hope BSV died, the royal family is not dead, one day not to speak of the usurpation, otherwise it is the world back, everyone has to kill the rebellion.

曾健:
@hslayj 有时间回复下，中本聪正名按照法律程序在7月就该水落石出了，凯文发推说要十月份，那时候又是开大会了，感觉后面还会往后推，因为根本就不需要繁文缛节，证明自己是中本聪真身，Craig博士根本就不想，他要证明自己到底难在哪里呢
Have time to reply, the rectification in accordance with the law in the hearing procedures in July to the bottom, KaiWenFa excuse to October, and it is convention, feeling will push back behind, because don’t need red tape, proved himself in the hearing, Dr Craig didn’t want to be, where he wants to prove himself the difficulty

hslayj:
我的理解是，七月份的郁金香案件，只是确定郁金香案件的财产归属权，凯文说的十月份的案件，应该不是郁金香案件，而是CSW诉讼一个诽谤他说他不是中本聪的人的案件，郁金香案件的法律判决并不是针对CSW中本聪身份的判决，诽谤案的判决结果基本就是确定了他是否是中本聪这个客观事实的法律意见。

3.2.1:
十月份，律师团队将在英国通过法律证明Csw博士就是中本聪@hslayj 谷歌，苹果，脸书，等其他大型互联网公司，无法攻击Bsv，因为它有强大的专利保护
My understanding is that the tulip case of July, only determine the property ownership of tulip case, said Kevin’s case in October, it should not be tulip case, but he said he was not a libel CSW litigation in the hearing of cases involving people, tulip legal judgment of case is not in CSW this our judgment of identity, the decision is to determine the basic cases, whether he is in our legal opinion of the objective facts.

3.2.1:
In October, a team of lawyers in the UK will prove that Dr Csw is satoshi nakamoto, apple, facebook and other big Internet companies that cannot attack Bsv because of its strong patent protection

hslayj:
每个创新产品都有产品的本身特性，很多产品其实是不依赖于创始人的，比如说集装箱的发明人最后也把自己搞破产了，二维码的发明和发扬光大也是不同主体完成的，但是区块链是一个很有趣的产品，这个产品的特性就是信用积累和技术迭代具备天然矛盾性，每一次技术迭代都会产生信用体系的崩溃，要维持信用的可持续性，就要尽可能的保证协议的稳定性，而能够保证协议的稳定性除了字面意义的理解之外，时间的积累和持续也是必不可少的，这就限制的技术创新带来的平台迭代风险，而在目前看来BSV体系的可能竞争者甚至都还没有出现，那么以后就算真正出现了，信用的持续积累时间也是一个无法逾越的鸿沟。

很多东西是需要时间的，罗马不是一天建成的，宏观逻辑的转变一般动辄是以十年为单位的，耐心和思考是把握住时代红利必不可少的两大要素，
Every innovation product has itself characteristics of products, many products are actually does not depend on the founder, such as the inventor of the last container also themselves bankrupt, the invention of the qr code and carry forward is different subject, but block chain is a very interesting product, the characteristic of this product is credit accumulation and technology iteration with natural contradiction, each new technology iteration produces the collapse of credit system, to maintain the sustainability of credit, to guarantee the stability of the agreement as possible and to ensure the stability of the agreement in addition to the understanding of the literal meaning, the accumulation of time and the last is indispensable, This limits the risk of platform iteration brought by technological innovation, and at present, the possible competitors of BSV system have not even appeared, so even if they do appear in the future, the continuous accumulation time of credit is an insurmountable gap.

A lot of things take time, Rome was not built in a day, the transformation of macro logic is usually in ten years, patience and thinking are the two essential elements to grasp the dividend of The Times,

软件开发🏅金海:
BSV感觉就是想吧BTC做成ETH？
BSV feels like BTC makes ETH?

比特币张摩西:
ETH除了骗人还干过什么？
What else had ETH done but cheat?

刘晔律师:
ETH上能建立twetch这样的社交自媒体么？
Can ETH build a social media like twetch?

hslayj:
BSV本质就是一个不可篡改的数据库，ETH把自己比作一个计算机，我觉得对于区块链来说，计算不重要，数据最重要，数据的多维度比对就可以成就数据体系的诚实信用和追责体系，而计算这个问题，你把数据拿过来、代码拿过来，随便找个第三方计算单元完成就行了，所以ETH本质还是没有理解区块链，这也为他造就了违法金融行业以及计算排队拖延埋下了隐患。
BSV essence is a not tamper with the database, the ETH compares himself to a computer, I think for block chain, computing is not important, the most important data, the data of the multidimensional comparative can achievement data system of honesty and credibility and accountability system, and calculate the problem, you get the data, code, grab a cell by a third party to complete, so still no understanding of nature of the ETH block chain, the financial industry, it also made illegal for him and calculating a hidden under the queuing delay.

hslayj:
比特币在创始区块中就有“The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout forbanks.”这段信息，作为做软件开发人来说，应该知道一个数据库和一个文本的差异其实就是硬盘容量差异，能记录一段话就能记录一个数据库，就能记录整个人类的数据，最终形成整个人类的真实信息交互，形成全世界的唯一真相之源。
COINS in founding block in "The Times’ 03 / Jan / 2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout forbanks.” this piece of information, as do software developers, should know that a database and a text is hard disk capacity differences, can record a passage to a database, you can record The whole human data, and finally formed The whole human true information interaction, forming The source of The world’s only truth.

hslayj:
BTC本质就是开发人员利用了中本聪的善良和开放，通过删除中本聪和他支持者的系统权限，把比特币劫持了，而由于缺乏对比特币的模型理解，把比特币的所有能力都阉割掉了，最终形成了现在的BTC，完成了区块链版的狸猫换太子，BSV就是回来上演王子复仇记的，只有了解了BSV，区块链体系的所有真相才能真正理解透彻，这是其它任何一个区块链体系都无法做到的。
BTC in essence is the developers to use the power of kindness and openness, by removing the hearing system permissions, and his supporters in the COINS hijacked, but due to a lack of understanding model of COINS, dropped the COINS of all ability castration, eventually formed the BTC, now completed the block chain version of civet cats in prince Edward, the BSV is back on the tragedy of prince, only by understanding the BSV, block chain system can truly understand thoroughly all the truth, this is any other block chain system can’t do it.

Stephen周:
@软件开发🏅金海比特币本来就比ETH强大，BTC自我阉割而已,如果你不相信，可以读一读电子书和wiki。no time to try to convince everyone
Bitcoin is inherently more powerful than the ETH. BTC is self-emasculating. If you don’t believe me, read ebooks and wikis. No time to try to convince everyone

刘晔律师:
ETH会很快熄火的
ETH will shut down soon

软件开发🏅金海:
求解
To solve the

刘晔律师:
堆高于岸，浪必湍之
When the heap is higher than the shore, the waves must be turbulent

荣哥理财师:
从49美元走下坡路到192美元，这是怪坡,如果继续走下坡路，不知道会到多少美元
Going from $49 down to $192, that’s a slope, and if you keep going down, you don’t know how many dollars you’re going to get

刘晔律师:
@软件开发🏅金海你都说还需要学习，何况他人
You say you still need to learn, let alone others

软件开发🏅金海:
从今天的结果看bsv是牛，非常牛👍👍👍挂掉的那些模式币多如毛发,能走到交易所的都是少数啦
From the results of today’s BSV’s cattle, very cow 👍 👍 👍 hang up those patterns of currency, such as hair, can go to the stock exchange is one of the few

hslayj:
称CSW为冒牌货，CSW发起法律诉讼不是很正常的么，诽谤者受到法律威胁不正代表着CSW才是那个用法律解决问题，而不是用诽谤和谩骂来诋毁他人的键盘侠么，对于那些剽窃了中本聪成果的人来说，攻击中本聪本来就是他们的立场决定的。对于不明真相的吃瓜群众来说，听听CSW的声音，了解BSV和BTC的差异，才更加有利于真相的挖掘吧，对于BTC来说，你真的觉得一个每秒钟个位数转账的系统，能支撑起一个全球金融贸易网络么，这不是笑话是什么呢。
Called CSW faker, CSW launched legal action is not very normal, detractors threat against by law represents the CSW is that use the law to solve the problem, not with slander and abuse to denigrate the keyboard man of others, for those who has stolen the chung results in people, attack this hearing was decided to their position. For those who don’t know the truth, listen to the voice of CSW and understand the difference between BSV and BTC, which is more conducive to the discovery of the truth. For BTC, do you really think that a system of single-digit transfers per second can support a global financial and trade network?

软件开发🏅金海:
能到100美金以上的绝对是牛,必须向高手学习，不学习有罪，不然就会就被无情的踩在脚下，学习学习再学习
Can to 100 dollars above is absolutely cattle, must learn from the master, do not learn to be guilty, otherwise will be mercilessly trampled at the foot, learn to learn to learn

荣哥理财师:
偏见和分歧是利润的来源！巨大的偏见和分歧是巨大的利润来源！不单要学习，更重要的是独立思考的能力
Prejudice and disagreement are the source of profit! Great prejudice and difference is a great source of profit! Not only to learn, more important is the ability to think independently

hslayj:
中本聪本身是一个架构师，他的代码能力并不算十分出众，因此把BTC改掉的东西重新改回来，实现白皮书的所有愿景，仍然需要一个专业团队来支撑，而链上生态的样板工程同样需要高手来完成，这就是中本聪需要nchain来支持他的原因。nchian的首席技术官Shadders就说，他的工作是让自己失业，这就是对于稳定协议的最高敬意，知道自己的历史使命是什么，然后细化到日常工作上来，这就是nChain的发展思路，所以所谓的中心化诽谤，是根本不理解什么是去中心化，去中心化的意思是锁定协议后带来的稳定开发和信用环境，也只有BSV才在向这个方向努力，其它的所谓去中心化定义，都是经不起推敲的，开发者本身就是所有区块链的中心权力节点，只有开发者致力于让自己失业，这个链的最终发展结果才有可能真正做到去中心化——也就是大家围绕着一个稳定协议共识来进行生态的拓展与建设。
In the hearing itself is an architect, his ability to code is not very outstanding, so change the BTC things back to back, realize all the white paper vision, still needs a professional team to support, and chain of ecological engineering as the example of master need to complete, this is in the hearing nchain are needed to support him. Nchian’s chief technology officer Shadders said, his job is to let yourself unemployed, this is the highest respect for the stability pact, know what their own historical mission, and then refined to daily work, this is the development direction of the nChain, so the so-called centralized libel, is don’t understand what is decentralized, the decentralized means locking protocol after stable development and credit environment, also only in BSV toward this direction, the other so-called decentralized definition, is a thin, the developer itself is all block chain node at the center of power, Only if the developers are committed to putting themselves out of work will the chain’s eventual development be truly decentralized-that is, to build and expand the ecosystem around a stable agreement.

Stephen周:
查尔斯大学没有质疑。剩下提出质疑的人，全是犯罪分子
Charles university has no doubts. The rest of the doubters are criminals

hslayj:
任何问题都可以提，尖锐一点也没什么，如果我们连善意的新加入者都说服不了，以后就更难走出社区走向世界了，现在是BSV的初生期，把很多问题搞清楚了，会让后来者少走很多弯路。
Any question can be asked. It’s ok to be sharp. If we can’t even persuade the well-meaning new entrants, it will be more difficult for us to go out of the community and into the world.

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孙牧:
这封信把拼多多换成BSV也很适合😊带着这样的视角，我们既感到无比的谦卑和平静，又无比感恩于拥有的宝贵青春和担负着的重大责任。因此，我们将更加坚定地投资未来，努力建设面前的新世界。在这新世界中，我们的美好旅程才刚刚开始。
This letter spell it out with BSV 😊 as well take this perspective, we both felt so humble and calm, and very grateful to have the precious youth and bears a big responsibility. So we will invest more firmly in the future and work to build the new world that lies ahead. Our journey in this new world has only just begun.

清风徐来:
@孙牧嗯，新世界中，这一段旅程才刚刚开始
Well, in the new world, this journey is just beginning

hslayj:
是的，寒冬是最好的改良时机，旧势力在冬天逐渐暴露软弱的地方，寒冬会杀死那些脆弱的主体，把资源释放给新的竞赛者，旧的秩序逐渐瓦解，新的秩序才有领土发芽，新的规则将越来越不受传统力量的束缚，拥有它们自己的领地和王国，每一个万物复苏的春天都有一个万物凋零的冬天作为前奏，就如同那句话一样，冬天来了，春天还会远么?
Yes, winter is the best improvement opportunity, the old forces gradually exposed the weak places in the winter, the cold winter will kill those fragile body, release resources for the new competitors, the old order gradually collapse, new order is territory of germination, the new rules will be more and more from the bondage of traditional power, have their own territory and kingdoms, every spring, there is a revival as a prelude to, and dreariness of winter like that sentence, if winter comes, can spring be far behind?

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