January 5, 2020

比特币经济学 5 : 核心概念定调

比特币经济学：基于BitcoinSV的全新视角来重新构想世界经济格局 #

Recreating Economics based on Bitcoin : Reimagining the world economic landscape based on a new perspective of BitcoinSV #

CONTENTS (目录) #

Conversation : 2020.4.1 ~ 4.5 #

hslayj:
既然要公开传播，我就对几个观点进行一下定调，免得被过分解读，下文所述比特币都是BSV。
Since it is going to be publicly distributed, I will adjust a few points of view so as not to be over-understood. Bitcoins described below are all BSV.

首先，法币体系的崩溃与比特币的出现没有必然因果关系，即使比特币不出现，现代法币体系也会自然瓦解和崩溃，经济体的高增长、高负债和可持续信用是一个不可能三角，目前世界推行的高增长、高负债模式必定带来信用体系的崩塌，当然这个时间周期是以十年记的，没有比特币，法币崩溃后的美国发展逻辑可以参照二战前的德国发展逻辑，所以比特币是法币的诺亚方舟和拯救者，不是法币的竞品。
First of all, the collapse of the fiat currency system has no necessary causal relationship with the emergence of Bitcoin. Even if Bitcoin does not appear, the modern fiat currency system will naturally disintegrate and collapse. The high growth, high debt and sustainable credit of the economy is an impossible triangle. The current high-growth, high-debt model promoted by the world will inevitably lead to the collapse of the credit system. Of course, this time period is recorded in ten years. Without Bitcoin, the development logic of the United States after the collapse of the fiat currency can refer to the development logic of Germany before World War II. Bitcoin is the Noah’s Ark and savior of fiat currency, not a competitor of fiat currency.

其次，比特币即使成功，全世界的普及和法制化也应该是由负责任的政府推动的，比特币经济学认为现代人类文明的政府已经足够负责和有担当，比特币只是人类文明的升级和进步的工具，不是任何反政府甚至暴力主义的理论源泉，即使比特币成功，和传统经济体系应该也有一个足够长的共生期来完成体系的过度和生长。一方面比特币要进行新体系的容错性测试，另一方面比特币的过度要有足够长的时间来完成自我进化，从而照顾绝大部分人的利益，即使这部分人是新经济文明的后知后觉者，如果这套理论引起任何暴力诉求甚至流血牺牲，那么这套理论是错误的和需要被重新审视和发展的。
Secondly, even if Bitcoin is successful, the popularity and legalization of the world should be promoted by a responsible government. Bitcoin Economics believes that the government of modern human civilization is sufficiently responsible and responsible. Bitcoin is only an upgrade of human civilization and The tool of progress is not the theoretical source of any anti-government or even violentism. Even if Bitcoin is successful, there should be a long symbiotic period with the traditional economic system to complete the transition and growth of the system. On the one hand, Bitcoin needs to carry out the fault tolerance test of the new system, and on the other hand, Bitcoin’s transition must have a long enough time to complete self-evolution, so as to take care of the interests of the vast majority of people, even if this part of the people is a new economic civilization. For the hindsight, if this theory causes any demand for violence or even bloody sacrifice, then this theory is wrong and needs to be re-examined and developed.

最后，比特币是一个新的信用系统，它本身是为了完成人类底层逻辑从暴力权力逻辑转向诚信权力逻辑，这是人类文明的底层逻辑升级，因此会惠及人类社会的每一个角落，但同时它本身仍然是需要持续发展和进化的，比特币并不会自动解决所有问题，很多问题例如贫富分化问题，仍然不可避免的需要政府的参与和支持，任何固步自封的做法对于这套体系都是十分危险的，比特币是一套开放的社会进化生态体系。
In the end, Bitcoin is a new credit system. It is to complete the underlying logic of human beings from the logic of violent power to the logic of honest power. This is an upgrade of the underlying logic of human civilization, so it will benefit every corner of human society, but at the same time it It still needs continuous development and evolution. Bitcoin does not automatically solve all problems. Many problems, such as the separation of rich and poor, still inevitably require the participation and support of the government. Any self-contained approach is very important for this system. Dangerous, Bitcoin is an open social evolution ecosystem.

Hansi:
比特币系统肯定会照顾到新经济文明的后知后觉着，最起码他们所赚的钱，再也不会量化宽松了。
The bitcoin system will certainly take care of the afterthought of the new economic civilization, at least the money they make, and there will be no more quantitative easing.

蒋杰:
在bitcointalk用satoshi账号发帖的人一直是Gregory Maxwell ？？
The person Posting from bitcointalk using satoshi has always been Gregory Maxwell??

hslayj:
是的，之前CSW公开说过，他的很多观点放在了一个论坛上，该论坛是由Gavin Anderson等人创建的，后来这个论坛关闭了，其它人把它的观点经过筛选和剪切甚至断章取义后放到了bitcointalk上，伪造了中本聪的早期痕迹，目的就是从根本上保证中本聪永远无法回来自证身份。
Yes, before the CSW publicly said that many of his views on a BBS, the BBS is Gavin Anderson and others created, then this BBS is closed, the other person’s point of view it filtered and shear on the bitcointalk after even taken out of context, forged in the hearing early traces, purpose is fundamentally guarantee in the hearing can never be back from the identity.

hslayj:
矿工补贴四年一次的周期递减，总有一天会彻底消失，那么链上生态靠什么来进化生长和可持续发展，只能靠链上生态的可使用性，靠万链归一的经济系统激励才能保证比特币永续存在，BTC因为只能偷盗中本聪的代码，所以就扼杀了比特币的成长可能性，即使中本聪真的被他们掩埋了，这套系统总有一天会因为矿业枯萎而彻底的链死亡，这和谁是中本聪没有关系，是最基本的技术常识。
Miners subsidies four years a cycle of decline, will one day be completely disappear, then the chain growth and sustainable development, ecological evolution by what can only rely on the chain of ecological workability, by chain unto the economic incentive to ensure that the currency system of sustainable existence, BTC because only steal the power code, so he killed the COINS possibility to grow, even in this hearing really being buried, the system will one day because the chain of mining wither completely dead, this has nothing to do with who is in the hearing, common sense is the most basic technology.

TsiMing Ho:
MetaSV新增UTXO查询和挑选接口，重要特性：
1. 支持未确认utxo计算引用链（ancestors）个数，防止因调用链超过50而被拒绝广播，适合小额高频交易应用
2. 支持多地址批量挑选足额utxo，应用无需自行挑选，方便HD钱包使用
新utxo接口可以方便开发者快速搭建简易稳定的钱包应用，欢迎试用：https://doc.metasv.com/#utxo-2
MetaSV added UTXO query and select interface, important features:

Support unrecognised utxo calculation reference chain (ancestors) number, prevent rejection by invocation chain of more than 50 radio, suitable for small high-frequency applications
Support for multi-address bulk selection in full amount of utxo, applications do not need to choose their own, easy to use HD wallet The new utxo interface enables developers to quickly build simple and stable wallet applications. Try it out: https://doc.metasv.com/#utxo-2

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荣哥理财师:
愚人节消息吧
April fool’s day news

刘晔律师:
没有什么关系,不存在国家区块链一说
No matter, there is no country block chain

hslayj:
在科技创新这个问题上，政府是绝对的后知后觉者，让政府进行科技前沿的创新冲锋是十分愚蠢的政治决策。记得当初百度出来的时候，国家也支持邓亚萍来了个人民搜索，最后几十亿打水漂，国家队折戟沉沙，创新讲究的是基因适配性，不是投入规模也不是传统力量，因为新的生态里只有新的适应环境的基因能生存，正确的基因可能有指数级增长，错误的投入只能眼看着吃完老本关门大吉。
When it comes to technological innovation, the government is an absolute backwardness, and it is a stupid political decision to let the government charge the innovation frontier. Remember the baidu came out, the country also support deng yaping to a people’s search, finally billions of treading water, international forays, fitment, innovation is all about gene is not investment scale is not traditional power, because the new ecological genes can not survive only to the new environment, the correct gene may have exponential growth, the wrong input can only see the finish line shut down.

hslayj:
如果真的出现了国家链，我们反过来要问国际链需要不需要，如果国家链替代不了国际链，那么BSV就会长期存在，而反过来如果有了国际链，国家链还需要不需要就画一个问号了，因为如果国际链发展起来了，那么不管在信用维度、效率维度、贸易维度上来说，国际链肯定都是碾压国家链的，那么网络效应的最直接结果就是国际链会吃掉国家链，国家链的唯一存在前提就是国家不遗余力的长期补贴，这和互联网只需要一个是一个道理。
If a national chain, we will ask the international chain need not need, if the national chain international chain can’t be replaced, the BSV will exist for a long time, and, in turn, if you have the international chain, national chain also need do not need to draw a question mark, because if the international chain developed, no matter on credit dimension, efficiency dimension, trade dimension, sure are rolling country international chain chain, then the most direct result of the network effect is national chain will eat international chain, the only prerequisite of national chain is country spare no effort to subsidies for a long time, and the Internet only need one. This is a truth.

金矿:
恍然大悟
An Epiphany

hslayj:
国家是地缘政治逻辑在暴力机器方面的全面体现，目前来说，这套逻辑是人类的最底层逻辑。但是我们也看到了这套逻辑在这几千年的表现，特别是近代战争史，让我们应该对这套逻辑有非常深刻的警惕和反思。国家之间的战争猜疑链导致的军备竞赛，地缘信仰差异导致的意识形态鄙视链，军备不平衡导致的恐怖主义，军事大国核威慑造成的世界范围内的恐怖平衡，站在每一个大国角度，这些选择都是必须的和理性的，但是站在人类理性和命运共同体的角度，这种零和博弈是否过于野蛮和愚蠢，我们既然有了博弈论作为理论工具，区块链作为技术工具，我相信人类就有能力改变这种状态，终结困扰人类文明几千年的暴力问题和权力问题，这也就是文明升级为什么如此必要和迫切的原因。
The state is the full embodiment of the geopolitical logic in the violent machine. At present, this logic is the lowest level of human logic. However, we have also seen the performance of this logic in these thousands of years, especially in the history of modern wars, so we should have a very profound vigilance and reflection on this logic. War suspicion chain led to an arms race between countries, geopolitical belief differences lead to ideological despise chains, arms imbalance caused by terrorism, military power nuclear deterrence caused worldwide terrorist balance, stand Angle in each country, these are necessary and rational choice, but to stand in the perspective of human reason and fate community, whether this zero-sum game too brutal and stupid, since we had the game theory as a theoretical tool, block chain as a technical tool, I believe that humans have the ability to change this state, put an end to the troubled human civilization thousands of years of violence and power, This is why the upgrading of civilization is so necessary and urgent.

hslayj:
微信支付出来前的很多年，手机支付的技术方案就已经有了，之前深圳有做过银联闪付卡的SIM卡化，希望通过SIM卡或者手机NFC的方式完成手机支付的场景落地逻辑，但是做了大几年都没做出来，当时的主要参与方有银联、几个商业银行、电信运营商、制卡商、POS机制造商、手机制造商，究其原因就是系统的行业跨度过大，权责不清晰，标准不一致，上下级关系不清晰，最终导致了整个项目的内部逻辑不清晰，反应在具体实操层面，就是落地的故障率高，没有实用性，那个时候的腾讯还是支付领域的门外汉。而微信和支付宝支付之所以能够成功，就是因为他们把所有外部逻辑都内部化了，除了支付牌照需要申请外，从项目的用户端、商户端、结算端、银行端、推广端都在自己手上握着，出了任何问题，权责都十分明确，这也才成就了今天的移动支付帝国。
WeChat pay out for many years ago, the technical scheme for mobile payment has been, shenzhen has done before unionpay card SIM card is changed, the hope that through a SIM card or mobile NFC complete scene ground logic of mobile payment, but haven’t done for several years, the main participants are unionpay, several commercial Banks, telecommunications operators, CARDS, POS machine manufacturers, mobile phone manufacturers, investigate its reason is the system of industry span is too large, the power and responsibility is not clear, the standard is inconsistent, no clear relationship between higher and lower, eventually lead to the internal logic of the entire project is not clear, the reaction in the specific field, Is the landing of the failure rate is high, no practical, tencent at that time or payment field layman. And WeChat and pay treasure to pay was able to succeed, is because they internalize all external logic, in addition to pay licenses need to apply for, from the project of the client, merchant side, settlement, bank side, promotion and holding in his hand, and out of any problems, power and responsibility is very clear, this also makes the mobile payment today empire.

hslayj:
Libra目前的设计架构也面临着如同当初手机闪付的逻辑困境，看起来Libra的天枰委员会阵容无比强大，其实都是虚架子，内部很难有权责关系的明确化，而Libra想要自己做电子货币，无疑又挑战了美联储的权威，和各个央行的权威，这种东西一出来肯定就会遭到全方位的打压。Libra其实比较理性的做法，应该是先像微信支付那样，把美元移动支付做好，然后慢慢的在各国获取支付拍照，做出各种法币的移动支付，先把场景落地逻辑做好，而不是一开始就要重构金融版图。
Libra is the design of the architecture faces like mobile phones pay logic dilemma, the look of Libra apparently committee team very strong, are empty shelves, and inside there is no explicit power and responsibility relations, electronic currency and Libra want to do, no doubt and challenge the authority of the federal reserve, and the authority of the central bank, this one out what will surely been all-round suppressed. In fact, Libra is a more rational approach, which should be like WeChat payment, to make mobile payment of us dollars, and then slowly obtain payment in various countries to take photos, make mobile payment of various legal currency, and make the scene of the ground logic, rather than the first reconstruction of the financial landscape.

hslayj:
从整个货币逻辑上来讲，美联储就是一个集成了很多私有银行的委员会组织，Libra想要重新复制这个逻辑本身就很荒谬，如果美联储能做好，那么就不需要新的委员会，如果美联储都做不好，新的委员会凭什么能够保证自己做的好，扎克伯格在做这个项目的时候，很多逻辑关系是没有想清楚的，还是按照普通项目的方式重构了Libra的项目逻辑，但是这样做很显然是错误的，事实也证明了这点，这就是创新领域新基因的重要性，人们不可能通过重复以前的错误来解决以前的问题，新的问题需要新的解决方案，新的解决方案需要新的创新基因，而目前来说，只有BSV有一定的可能性，完成对旧有金融逻辑的重构和升级，只有BSV有新王朝的正统血脉，那就是去中心化的权力方式，而不是中心化的调控权力逻辑，完成金融市场秩序的永续逻辑构建。
From the entire monetary logically speaking, the federal reserve is an integrated a lot of private banking committee organization, Libra want to copy this logic itself is ridiculous, if the fed can do a good job, so there is no need for the new commission, if the fed is doing is not good, what’s the basis of a new committee to make his do good, zuckerberg when doing this project, many think logical relation is not clear, or in accordance with the general project the Libra is reconstructed by means of program logic, but doing so is obviously wrong, the fact proved that, this is the importance of innovation of new genes, People can not be solved by repeating the mistake of previous to the previous questions, new questions need new solutions, new solutions to new innovation gene, and for the moment, only the BSV has certain possibility, complete to reconstruct and upgrade the old financial logic, only BSV have the new dynasty orthodox veins, the decentralization of power, rather than centralized control logic power, a complete build sustainable financial market order logic.

hslayj:
从整个人类发展史来说，中心化组织是一定有寿命期限的，公司会倒闭，王朝会落幕，明君会死掉，文明会转变，只有生态本身的发展是生生不息永无止境的，永续化的金融生态逻辑，使得人类不被那些可能会落幕或者腐朽的中心化组织所绑架，不会出现什么大而不能倒的体制癌症，当所有竞争个体都在不断演化和新陈代谢的时候，组织的长久健康反而是有保证的，而当中心化组织公司、强人、政府、国家把经济搞砸了的时候，起码人类还有最后一个港湾可以依靠，那就是BSV信用体系，这才是BSV最迷人的地方。
From the whole human history, centralized organization is must have life, the company will collapse, dynasty will end, who will die, civilization will change, only the development of the ecosystem itself is endless endless, sustainable financial ecological logic, makes the human not by those who may end by a centralized organization or corrupt kidnapping, won’t appear any big to fail system cancer, when all the individual competition in constant evolution and metabolism, instead of the organization’s long-term health is assured, and when the centralized organization company, strongman, government, national messed up the economy, At least the BSV credit system is the last port on which mankind can rely, and this is the most fascinating part of BSV.

hslayj:
比特币的稀缺性分内外两种，内部稀缺性就是2100万枚比特币上限，这就是BTC的发展逻辑，但是光有内部稀缺性是不够的，因为代码可以复制，今天有比特币，明天你怎么能保证没有金特币、银特币、铜特币，币圈在的ＩＣＯ乱象就是这种逻辑的体现。而比特币的外部稀缺性才是比特币的成功关键，只有做到万币归一、万链归一、万物上链以后的比特币，才能保证其它人不能通过一个代码复制就完成了系统的剽窃，这也是ＢＳＶ目前追求的东西，同时具备内部稀缺性和外部稀缺性，比特币才能真正圆满，就如同一个ＱＱ软件可能很容易开发，但是一个腾讯帝国的社交体系却不是那么容易剽窃一样，其他人要剽窃的将不再是比特币系统本身，而是整个人类文明的信用生态体系，这让比特币在今后很长的历史中被淘汰的逻辑在根本上变得不可能。
Scarcity points inside and outside two COINS, the interior scarcity is the upper limit of 21 million gold COINS, this is the development logic of BTC, but internal scarcity is not enough, because the code can be replicated, COINS today, tomorrow, how can you ensure no gold COINS, silver COINS, copper COINS, tokens of the circle in our ICO is just the embodiment of this logic. And external scarcity of currency is the currency of key to success, only do all currency normalization, chain of chain on all things later, COINS, to ensure that other people can’t copy completes the system through a code of plagiarism, which is BSV the pursuit of things, has both external and internal scarcity scarcity, the currency can truly complete, like a QQ software can easily develop, but the social system of an empire of tencent is not so easy as plagiarism, others to plagiarize will no longer be the currency system itself, but the whole credit ecological system of human civilization, This makes the logic of bitcoin being phased out for a long time to come fundamentally impossible.

孙牧:
支付宝和微信支付仰仗阿里电商平台和腾讯社交平台生态的稀缺性得以落地。Facebook社交生态在全球有稀奇性，Libra自上而下的执行思路有问题。比特币有系统设计精妙的内部稀奇性，但生态的外部稀缺性，也是可遇不可求的，自力更生是一条路，找机会借助类似FB这样级别的外部生态会不会也是一条路？
Alipay and WeChat payment depend on the scarcity of alibaba e-commerce platform and tencent social platform. The social ecology of Facebook is a curiosity around the world, and Libra’s top-down approach to execution is questionable. Bitcoin has the unique nature of systematic design, but the external scarcity of ecology is also rare. Self-reliance is the way. Will it be the way to find opportunities with external ecology like FB?

hslayj:
这就是万链归一的逻辑，ＢＳＶ本身不仅是一套金融体系，更是一套比互联网架构更完美的网络架构，ＳＰＶ保证了点到点的双离线通讯成为可能，无摩擦通讯会使得网络应用场景极大的丰富，矿工的小世界网络保证了网络的服务器的通讯速率是理论最大的，而矿工生态的挖矿奖励又保证了这个体系的可持续进化的资源来源，而ＭｅｔａＮｅｔ更是给软件应用层提供了无限的进化可能，在这种架构下，任何的应用都是可能的，不仅Ｌｉｂｒａ可以上ＢＳＶ来做，ＤＣＥＰ、ＣＢＤＣ等数字货币形态也完全可以用ＢＳＶ做，所有的需要信用加持的行业都可以用ＢＳＶ做，当大家都上一条链来做系统的时候，网络效应就自动完成了，ＢＳＶ本身就是最好的跨链数据打通逻辑，目前的ＢＳＶ还被生态丰富性和基础设施问题所局限，但是当ＢＳＶ系统在完成足够的基础设施进化和生态进化而真正无所不能的时候，其它行业链就只能面临要么归顺要么死亡的命运，除了长期补贴不计较经济效能的政府支持链以外，其它链最后的结果都只能是归顺ＢＳＶ体系，实现万链归一，这和互联网与局域网的关系是一样的。
This is logic, chain unto the BSV itself is not only a set of financial system, but also a set of more perfect than the Internet architecture of network architecture, SPV ensure double offline of point to point communication possible, frictionless communication will make the network application scenario; infinite enrichment of miners in the small world network to ensure the network server communication rate is one of the largest, theory and ecological mining miners rewards and ensure the sources of sustainable evolution of the system resources, and MetaNet is given software application layer provides the evolution of the infinite possible, under this architecture, any application is possible, Libra not only can be done on the BSV, DCEP and CBDC digital currency form also can use BSV do, all need to credit the blessing of the industry can be made from BSV, when everyone was on a chain to do system, the network effect is automatically completed, BSV itself is the best across chain data through logic, the BSV also is limited by the ecological richness and infrastructure issues, but when the BSV system in complete enough infrastructure evolution and ecological evolution and really can do anything, other industry chain can only face or yield to the fate of death, either In addition to the long-term subsidies do not care about the economic efficiency of the government support chain, the final result of other chains can only be to comply with the BSV system, the realization of the chain, which is the same as the relationship between the Internet and LAN.

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Stephen周:
这篇文章有点乱，我近期会重写，大体反映了我最近的思路：比特币不是继美元、人民币之后新出现的货币符号，比特币是继贝壳、金属、纸、电子账户之后新出现的货币载体。所有货币符号、价值流动，最终都会使用交易成本最低的货币载体。这就是为什么博士说，比特币不是和美元竞争
This article is a bit messy, and I will rewrite it recently to reflect my recent thinking: bitcoin is not a new currency symbol after the us dollar and RMB, but a new currency carrier after shell, metal, paper and electronic accounts. All currency symbols and value flows will eventually use the currency carrier with the lowest transaction cost. That’s why doc says, bitcoin isn’t competing with the dollar

孙牧:
战略上这么说没问题，现在0到1或10的阶段，还可以多讨论一些具体的战术路径问题
It’s ok to say that strategically, now it’s 0 to 1 or 10, and we can talk a little bit more about specific tactical paths

hslayj:
目前ＢＳＶ的具体战术路径我解读到的是以下几条：
１，通过不断的社群传播，完成ＢＳＶ生态的理念传播。
２，通过不断的链上建设，完成ＢＳＶ生态的行业繁荣。
３，通过不断的法律诉求，完成ＢＳＶ生态的合法化进程和中本聪身份的法律确认。
４，通过郁金香的解封后的市场操作，完成ＢＳＶ体系对ＢＴＣ体系的正统性替代和中本聪身份的密码学确认。
５，通过不断的专利申请，完成ＢＳＶ生态的技术壁垒和护城河建设。
６，通过不断的ＢＳＶ生态投资，完成ＢＳＶ可行性项目的样板建设。
７，通过不断的矿工生态建设，完成ＢＳＶ底层基础设施的不断夯实。

反应在普通的ＢＳＶｅｒ身上，我们做的最好的战术策略就是不断的夯实ＢＳＶ在各个行业的应用场景逻辑和尽可能的传播ＢＳＶ体系逻辑，完成ＢＳＶ体系的病毒式裂变型布道逻辑，彻底推翻ＢＴＣ伪币的谎言体系。
At present, the specific tactical path of BSV is as follows:

Through continuous community communication, the concept of BSV ecology is spread.
Through continuous construction on the chain, complete the prosperity of BSV ecological industry.
Through continuous legal appeals, complete the legalization process of BSV ecology and legal confirmation of nakamoto satoshi’s identity.
Through the market operation after the unsealing of tulip, complete the legal replacement of BSV system for BTC system and the cryptographic confirmation of satoshi nakamoto’s identity.
Through continuous patent application, complete the construction of technical barriers and moats for BSV ecology.
Through continuous BSV ecological investment, completed the model construction of BSV feasibility project.
Through continuous ecological construction of miners, the bottom infrastructure of BSV was continuously consolidated.

In the case of ordinary BSVer, the best strategy we have made is to continuously tamp the application scenario logic of BSV in various industries and spread the logic of BSV system as far as possible, complete the logic of viral fission sermon of BSV system and completely overthrow the lie system of BTC counterfeit currency.

刘晔律师:
@hslayj 总结得非常好。加一句话，中本聪是人，CSW更是人，是人，便有人的特点，圆滑，策略…更有人的弱点
@hslayj summed it up very well. In a word, satoshi nakamoto is a human being, and CSW is a human being. More people’s weaknesses

hslayj:
放心，我已经过了追星那个年龄了，CSW是中本聪的意义对我来说，并不意味着他说的一切都是对的，而是他的反对者都在撒谎。我个人觉得CSW曾经犯过很多错误，现在的一些观点也并不完美，不过在BSV体系建设上的逻辑，基本是没问题的，当然很多逻辑需要事实检验，我说的也不一定全都对。
Rest assured, I’m past the age of starstruck, and CSW is what satoshi nakamoto means to me, not that everything he says is right, but that his opponents are lying. Personally, I think CSW has made many mistakes and some of its views are not perfect. However, the logic in the construction of BSV system is basically ok. Of course, a lot of logic needs to be tested by facts.

何岩:
我在推特上做广告一起把重新创造比特币经济学给带着推广啦,重新创造比特币经济学: recreating.org/economics 实时更新群内交流纪录，中英文双语（谷歌翻译），推向西方世界，希望西方人有机会了解到这些宝贵认知。
I advertise on twitter to re-create the currency economics together with the promotion, to create the currency economics: recreating.org/economics updated in real time in the same group communication record, bilingual in English and Chinese (Google translation), to the western world, hope that westerners have a chance to understand these precious knowledge.

何岩:
我把重新创造比特币经济学加到 recreating.org首页了，如果大家记不住recreating.org/economics，就去 recreating.org 的首页点击重新创造比特币经济学
I add “recreating economics of bitcoin” to the recreating.org home page, if you don’t remember, recreating.org/economics, go to recreating.org home page click to “recreating economics of bitcoin”

hslayj:
凯恩斯主义最大的危害其实就是让政府失去成本概念，从而让没有资源利用效率的官僚主义深刻影响了几乎所有行业，官僚主义与学术结合变成了官僚科学主义，把本来应该靠思想和观点而脱颖而出的科学，变成了被头衔和机构把持的威权评判体系；官僚主义与资本结合变成了官僚资本主义，把本来应该靠创造和效率而获得胜利的商业，变成了不断蚕食政府补贴的大而不能倒的商业巨头；官僚主义与舆论结合变成了官僚舆论现象，把本来应该靠挖掘真相和伸张正义的媒体，变成了党同伐异的意识形态喉舌。
Keynesian’s biggest hazard is for the government to lose the cost concept, so that do not have the resources use efficiency of bureaucratic profoundly influenced almost all industries, bureaucracy and academic become bureaucratic scientism, ought to have thoughts and opinions and stand out from the science, became dominated by title and authoritarian evaluation system; The combination of bureaucracy and capital has become bureaucrat-capitalism, turning businesses that were supposed to win by creativity and efficiency into too-big-to-fail giants that nibble away at government subsidies. The combination of bureaucracy and public opinion has become a phenomenon of bureaucratic public opinion, turning the media, which should have relied on digging out the truth and seeking justice, into an ideological mouthpiece of the party.

hslayj:
看看近代的美国吧，那个曾经率领全世界人民反抗法西斯，一手领导了二战后文明秩序重建的领袖，一手把自己的手下败将战败国德国、日本支持成了全世界的工业引擎，在脱离布雷顿森林体系后，当政府拥有了无与伦比的货币帝位后，当政府没有了成本概念后，他们到底又做了什么呢？他们开始变得傲慢与自负，文化殖民主义不仅造成了越南战争、伊拉克战争、阿富汗战争等这种毫无意义的流血事件，也让美国自己深陷财务危机、恐怖主义危机、领导危机，现在的美国已经失去了往日的风度和自信，在各种国际事务中讨价还价中锱铢必较，另一方面又时刻惶恐失去自己的往日地位，这就是错误理论的双刃剑，一言兴邦一言丧邦。
Look at the modern America, the once led the fighting fascism, people all over the world with one hand led the leader of the civilized order reconstruction after world war ii, defeated by his own hand defeated Germany, Japan became the world’s industrial engine support, after out of the bretton woods system, when the government owns the unparalleled monetary wealth, when the government did not have the concept of cost, what they do again? They start to become arrogant and conceited, cultural colonialism is not only caused the Vietnam war, the war in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. This kind of pointless bloodshed, also let the oneself in the depths of the financial crisis, terrorism, leadership crisis, now in the United States has lost its former poise and confidence, accompanied in various international affairs bargaining, moment fear losing their old status again on the other hand, this is a double-edged sword, error theory and development, it’s a funeral.

hslayj:
在这次的疫情中，国家和老百姓的高债务水平，就如同一个亚健康的病人，一次疫情的冲击就可以使得人们的老病加新疾一起爆发，一次突发性事件，就可以让国家的政治体系、经济体系、金融体系、安全体系受到巨大冲击，政客找不到解决方案就只能到处甩锅，甩来甩去最后很可能就一发而不可收拾甚至引发战争，而信用体系的健壮性也会受到长期的质疑，人们很难在这种经济体系中感觉到长久的安定感。
In this outbreak, countries and the common people’s high debt levels, like a healthy patients, the impact of an outbreak can make people’s money, add new disease outbreak, with a sudden event, can make the country’s political system, economic system, financial system, security system by the huge impact, politicians can’t find the solution can only be thrown around, to jilt to jilt to the last may not stop even led to war, and the robustness of the credit system will be questioned by the long term, it is hard to feel lasting peace in the economic system.

我们试想一下，如果这次疫情如果发生在一个比特币金融世界中，那么由于比特币不是一种通胀资产，不管是老百姓还是政府，手头都会有足够的财务储备，而不是像现在这样超前消费或者都过度投资到房产、股票上，这样金融恐慌的问题就会得到很大的缓解，而由于政府无法印制比特币，那么政府也不可能有永续的比特币债务，因为那样的话利息太高政府承受不了，这样平常的时候政府是零债务的，这个时候的政府信用是非常好的，为了应付类似瘟疫、灾难或者战争这种突发事件，政府的专项债务并不会导致政府信用的直接破产，老百姓的财务储备仍然可以让每个人有一个财务缓冲能力，不至于一停工就破产，最坏结果即使政府真的破产倒台了，也不会影响普通百姓的比特币存款，人民仍然有重建国家的力量和信用体系，这就是不同的基础金融体系演变的不同局面。
If we imagine that if the outbreak occurred in a currency in the financial world, so as the currency is not an asset inflation, whether people or the government, at hand can have enough financial reserves, rather than as it is now leading consumption or excessive investment on real estate, stock, so the problem of financial panic will get a lot of ease, and because the government can’t print the currency, the government also there can be no sustainable currency debt, interest is too high because the government cannot afford, so the usual time government debt is zero, this time the government credit is very good, In order to cope with emergencies, such as the plague, disaster or war special government debt will not lead to direct bankruptcy of government credit, common people’s financial reserves still can let everybody have a financial buffering capacity, not a shutdown for bankruptcy, the worst results even if the government really to the downfall of the bankruptcy, also won’t affect the currency account of the common people, the people still have to rebuild the power of the state and the credit system, which is different in the evolution of the financial system is the basis of the different situation.

荣哥理财师:
未来比特币的世界还是会有债务，不过可能是低水平的债务，不会是零
There will still be debt in the bitcoin world in the future, but probably at a low level, not zero

不写代码的架构师:
大家会普遍倾向于不借债，因为太难还上了
There is a general tendency not to borrow, because it is too hard to pay

Stephen周:
有没有人算过比特币世界的M1→M2的货币乘数？因为总有人需要借贷，肯定有货币乘数。
老百姓的钱是放在自己钱包里还是放在银行生息。利率会是多少。
Has anyone calculated the M1 to M2 money multiplier in the bitcoin world? Because there is always someone who needs to borrow, there must be a money multiplier.
Is the common people’s money in their own wallet or in the bank interest. What’s the interest rate going to be.

hslayj:
债务水平是和利息水平挂钩的，利息水平是和货币发行量挂钩的，比特币的边际货币发行量是0，今年减半后会达到1.7%左右，比法币低一点，美元法币的名义通胀率是2%，中国国内M2的实际增速有的时候甚至会飙到10%以上，在货币发行量较大的法币世界中，利息水平低，债务水平就会很高，因为债务利息甚至低过实际通胀水平，这让永续型债券有了保证，这种时候借债甚至就等于赚钱。而在比特币世界中，新增比特币发行量越来越小，货币的时间信用越来越大，债务利息就会很高，借债的目的一定是用来救急，借了也会很快还，永续型债务的利率增长水平会很快摧毁掉一个信用体系，所以国家不仅会尽可能的零债务，甚至会有国家比特币储备的需求。
Debt levels and interest level, level of interest rates and currency circulation link, the marginal monetary circulation of COINS is 0, after half of this year will reach 1.7%, lower than fiat, and the dollar legal tender in the name of the inflation rate is 2%, actual growth in China’s domestic M2 sometimes even soared to more than 10%, in the money supply larger fiat world, low level of interest rates, debt levels will be high, because debt interest even lower than actual inflation rates, which makes sustainable bonds have the guarantee, the debt is to make money even. And in the currency in the world, the new currency circulation is more and more small, currency credit is more and more big, debt interest will be high, the debt must be used for the purpose of the emergency, borrowed will also soon, sustainable type growth will soon destroy the interest rates on a credit system, so the country will not only zero debt as much as possible, even have the demand of the national currency reserves.

hslayj:
货币乘数是法币体系的指标，我倾向于认为比特币的货币乘数就是1，任何的借贷行为都是风险投资行为，因为几乎所有账户的准备金率都是可见的，准备金的高低将不是被央行一刀切的结果，而是行业自己的风险评估的结果，准备金率低可以催生高收益，但是同样也带来了高风险，平衡情况由机构自己把握，玩脱了亏光了，也不会有央行来兜底，也就不会出现大而不能倒的金融寡头。
Money multiplier is legal tender system indicators, I tend to think that the currency monetary multiplier is 1, any lending is a risk investment behavior, because almost all the accounts of the reserve requirement ratio is visible, the reserves of high and low will not be central Banks across the board as a result, but the result of the industry’s own risk assessment, the reserve requirement ratio low can yield high profits, but also lead to a high risk, the balance situation by oneself hold, institutions play off deficient, there will be no central bank to come out, also won’t appear big to fail financial oligarchy.

刘晔律师:
比特币的借贷相当于借实物，可能没有利息。
Bitcoin loans are the equivalent of physical loans, which may not pay interest.

罗毅青:
没有利息就不会借方驱动力
No interest, no debit drive

刘晔律师:
至于融资，可以通过token
For financing, you can use token

hslayj:
借实物也有租金，市场行为都是利润驱动的
There is also rent for borrowing in kind, and market behavior is profit driven

刘晔律师:
所以，比特币会改变现有人类经济模型
So, bitcoin is going to change the model of the human economy

hslayj:
是的，通胀经济模式的思维方式和非通胀经济模式的思维方式是迥然不同的
Yes, the way an inflationary economy thinks is very different from the way a non-inflationary economy thinks

Stephen周:
企业有长期利润，人有长期收入，就应该有贷款吧,肯定会有想用未来的工资提前买车这种需求
The enterprise has the long-term profit, the person has the long-term income, should have the loan, certainly will want to use the future salary to buy a car in advance this kind of demand

刘晔律师:
目前这种信用驱动型经济无限扩展模式会被比特币遏制，人类趋向极简而不是崇奢生活方式
The current model of unlimited expansion of the credit-driven economy will be held back by bitcoin, and humans tend to live in a minimalist rather than sumptuary way

hslayj:
有贷款没问题，只要贷款愿意还就没问题，问题出在永续型贷款上，比如国债、地方债等政府债务
There is no problem with loans, as long as the loan is willing to return no problem, the problem is sustainable loans, such as national debt, local government debt

hslayj:
是的，比特币会让很多金融泡沫彻底消失，因为比特币本身就是很好的保值品，人们不需要到处买一些乱七八糟的东西抗通胀。
Yes, bitcoin will make many financial bubbles disappear completely, because bitcoin itself is a good store of value, people do not need to buy some messy things around to fight inflation.

刘晔律师:
比特币的借货，时间就是利息，时间就是金钱
Time is interest, time is money

荣哥理财师:
比特币也会创造时间价值，借入比特币赚更多的比特币,比如交易所的借贷，余币宝之类
Bitcoins also create time value, borrowing bitcoins to make more bitcoins, such as exchange loans, COINS and so on

刘晔律师:
新冠病毒对人类生活方式的转变将与比特币相互作用
Novel coronavirus’s transformation of human lifestyle will interact with bitcoin

hslayj:
那就要看你能赚多少比特币了，如果你借入比特币能赚的不多，甚至抵不过借款利息，那么这个模型就不成立。一切都是量化的，利润大于利息，借贷成立，反之就不成立
That depends on how much bitcoins you can earn, and if you can’t earn enough from borrowing bitcoins to even cover the interest, the model doesn’t work. Everything is quantified, the profit is greater than the interest, the loan is true, otherwise is not true

比特币张摩西:
偏好是主观的，预期是对未来的，需求肯定是有的。
Preferences are subjective, expectations are for the future, and there must be demand.

hslayj:
而一旦持币方借出比特币，其实就面临了贷方的投资失败带来的风险，所以比特币借贷本质其实就是风险投资
Once the holder lends bitcoin, it is actually faced with the risk that the lender’s investment fails, so the essence of bitcoin lending is actually a venture investment

hslayj:
现在很多债务行为认为是没有风险的，比如买美国国债等，但本质上这种行为是有风险的，比如美国金融体系崩盘，这种风险忽略的金融行为在一定程度上放大了风险系数，使得风险真的来临的时候，整个信用系统就崩溃了，而放到比特币上，比特币就是明确了每个借贷行为的风险，不把信用体系建立在某一个中心化机构或者国家不违约的前提下，这样反而解放了系统安全，让这个信用系统是长期可靠的。
Behavior that is now a lot of debt without risk, such as to buy U.S. Treasury bonds, etc., but essentially this kind of behavior is risky, such as the U.S. financial system collapse, the risk to ignore the financial behavior of amplifies the risk factor, to some extent makes the risk really comes, the whole credit system collapse, and on the currency, the currency is clearly the risk of each borrowing, don’t put the credit system based on a centralized institutions or countries under the premise of no default, they liberated the system security, make the credit system is reliable for a long time.

荣哥理财师:
借出了比特币。真币就变白条了。。。现在你存在银行的数字不知道是债务还是真币，银行并不区分债务或者真币。而未来比特币的世界，债务和真币是可以一眼识别出来的
They lent out bitcoins. Real money goes white… Now the number that you have in the bank doesn’t know whether it’s debt or real money, and the bank doesn’t distinguish between debt and real money. In the future bitcoin world, debt and real money can be identified at a glance

hslayj:
真币就在你的私钥上，债务最多就是一个智能合约，真币被盗了可以通过法律体系找回来，债务关系破损了，借款人只能认倒霉，自认投资失败。
The real money is on your private key, the debt is at most a smart contract, the real money stolen can be recovered through the legal system, the debt relationship is broken, the borrower can only consider bad luck, self-admission investment failure.

大勇：
美国上周660万人申请失业救济金，创历史新高
In the United States, 6.6 million people applied for unemployment benefits last week, a record high

hslayj:
我做过一个简单的数学模型，一个经济体的通胀水平一旦超过它的经济增长速率，这个经济体就会很快进入一个滚雪球式的下降通道，直至体系崩溃，美国离这条红线的距离已经不是特别远了。
I made a simple mathematical model that once an economy’s inflation level exceeds its economic growth rate, the economy will quickly enter a snowballing downward spiral until the system collapses, and the United States is not too far from this red line.

何岩:
所有以前的记录已经放到recreating.org/economics 上了，感谢@清风徐来整理的记录！从头读一遍，循序渐进，真是一场BSV认知之旅。
All previous records has been on the recreating.org/economics, thank @ the wind to sort out the record! Reading it from the beginning, step by step, is really a BSV cognitive journey.

清风徐来:
真棒👍
That’s great 👍

何岩:
看到精彩的片段就忍不住发推 😊
See wonderful clips can not but tweeting 😊

比特币张摩西:
BSV未来可期
BSV is expected in the future

厚德载物:
优秀👍真的很幸运进这个群
Excellent 👍 really lucky in this group

何岩:
👍同感
the same feeling

厚德载物:
以前翻博士博客和刘晔律师的翻译，自己也不懂技术，理解的不好，进群后理解的更深，一直在进步
I used to translate the doctor’s blog and lawyer liu ye’s translation, but I didn’t understand the technology, so I didn’t understand it well. After I entered the group, I understood it more deeply and made progress all the time

清风徐来:
@厚德载物我和您一样
I’m with you

何岩:
BSV的内容创作氛围真的特别好，大家都在从自己的角度来解释比特币
BSV’s content creation atmosphere is really good, everyone is explaining bitcoin from their own perspective

Candice:
进群改变了我的交易习惯，不做短线了，心沉下来了哈哈，明显感觉我对自己投资的东西像个投资样不是投机了😂
Into the group changed the trading habits, I don’t go short, heart sank down ha ha, obviously feeling of my investment things like a sample is not speculation 😂

何岩:
“智慧与耐心，是市场挑选合格投资者和筛掉不合格投机者的试卷，投资市场远远不仅仅是涨或跌组成的。”－ hslayj
“Wisdom and patience are the test papers that the market selects qualified investors and screens out unqualified speculators. The investment market is much more than just up and down.” - hslayj

“投资是个人决策，要有短期内的亏损心里准备，而且ｂｓｖ也有政治风险，不是完全能成的，要有风险意识，不要放群里说，你赚了亏了都是自己的，这个意识要非常清楚” - hslayj
“Investment is a personal decision, to be prepared for losses in the short term, and BSV also has political risk, is not completely successful, to have a sense of risk, do not put in the group, you make losses are their own, this awareness should be very clear”

Candice:
向你们学习匹配财富
Learn from you to match wealth

hslayj:
其实当初联合国设立的时候，就是为了给世界人民定分止争用的，当初的海洋法的设立就是充分参考了地缘政治导致的陆地战争给整个人类带来的巨大苦难。但是经过几十年的发展，联合国在重大国际事项上很难起到当初设计的作用，世界政局更多的仍然是大国博弈的战场，寻根问底，就是因为联合国既没有足够威慑的军事权力也没有足够认可的货币权力。不过BSV的出现，很可能会给联合国一个巨大的杀手锏，那就是货币立法的解释权，BSV的政治中立性立场与联合国天然契合，BSV本身的法律解释和执行问题完全可以交给一个类似WTO的联合国组织来完成，参与国也可以根据国力问题而具备一票否决权，保证货币领域的政治安全，这样一方面BSV有了合法地位，不用再怕普通的犯罪活动，又不会被单一国家政权所垄断，还能尽可能的保证所有参与者的利益不被侵犯，能够尽可能的把经济发展去政治化，联合国有了这种世界货币的立法权和执法权后，将深刻的加强联合国的经济渗透力和国家影响力。
In fact, when the United Nations was established, it was to settle disputes for the people of the world, and the law of the sea was established in full reference to the huge suffering caused by the land war caused by geopolitics. However, after decades of development, the United Nations can hardly play the role it was designed to play on major international issues. The world political situation is still more of a battlefield for the game of great powers. BSV appearance, however, is likely to give the UN a giant killer, that is the power of interpretation, currency legislation BSV political neutrality stance with the UN natural fit, legal interpretation and BSV execution problems can completely in the hands of a similar WTO UN organizations, participating countries can also according to the national problem and have a veto, to ensure the safety of currency in the field of politics, so that on the one hand BSV have legal status, no longer afraid of ordinary criminal activities, and will not be a single state power monopoly, can also as much as possible, ensure that all participants’ interests are not violated, To depoliticize economic development as much as possible, the United Nations with the legislative and executive power of this world currency will profoundly strengthen the United Nations’ economic penetration and national influence.

hslayj:
另一方面，传统货币体系中，不管是金属货币还是法币，本身都是没有防暴力能力的经济体系，金属货币可以被抢走，法币甚至直接寄生于国家的军事政治力量，而比特币不一样，比特币具备防暴力特性。在传统社会中，假如一个国家或者城市倒台了，法币直接清零，金属货币直接被抢走，人民为了保证自己的财务安全和人身安全，只能被类似于国家主义或者民族主义的战车绑到战场上，否则普通人根本没有能力生存，但是在比特币的世界中，逻辑就不一样了，国家如果倒台了，普通人的比特币财产仍然是安全的，仍然是被其它国家权力甚至联合国保护的，人们仍然有区块链信用体系作为重建家园的力量，那么很多人将不会被迫加入战争的绞肉机，人们需要去做的可能只是换个城市生活，或者重建自己的城市经济，比特币可能从根本上杜绝了暴力出现的群众土壤，使得有限责任政府成为可能，让人类彻底摆脱几千年的地缘暴力逻辑的纠缠。
On the other hand, in the traditional monetary system, no matter it is metal currency or legal currency, it is an economic system without the ability to prevent violence. The metal currency can be taken away, and legal currency can even be directly parasitic on the military and political forces of a country. In traditional society, if the fall of a country or city, fiat directly reset, the metal currency robbed directly, the people in order to ensure their financial security and personal safety, can only be similar to the nationalism or nationalism chariot tied to the battlefield, or ordinary people have no ability to live, but in the currency of the world, the logic is different, the downfall of the state if, currency property is still a safe, ordinary people is still by other and even the United Nations to protect the state power, people still have block chain credit system as the power of the rebuild, so a lot of people will not be forced to join the war meat grinder, What people need to do may be to change their city life or rebuild their city economy. Bitcoin may fundamentally eliminate the mass soil of violence, make limited liability government possible, and completely free mankind from the entanglement of thousands of years of geopolitical violence logic.

刘子震:
政权的得来是靠武力夺取的，没有了战争，就没有了政权，这种构想估计没有几个政府欢迎，到时候没人参加战斗，没有兵，没有军人，靠什么
Political power is acquired by force, and without war, there would be no political power. This idea is expected to be welcomed by few governments

荣哥理财师（转)：
我最近的感悟，就是比特币是一个 society。这个结社的自由的体现。而参与的人，诚实的，正直的人，会因为价值观的统一，在这个结社的前提下保持更加高效的生产效率。

因为大家都很诚实，节约了大量的因为信息不对称和处理欺诈的成本。在这个情况下，市场可以更加充分地发挥资源调剂的作用。

然后，这个结社带来的结果，就是加入了这个经济体的人，做生意越做越好，生产率更高，逐渐的这个结社就打败了其他的结社形态。打败了各种主义，打败了各种政府组织形式。

你可以看作是跨国界的新的组织形态的诞生。
My most recent insight is that bitcoin is a society. The freedom of association. And the people who participate, the honest people, the honest people, because of the unity of values, will be more productive under the premise of this association.

Because people are honest, they save a lot of money because of information asymmetry and the cost of dealing with fraud. In this case, the market can play the role of resource adjustment more fully.

And then the result of this association is that people who join the economy do better business, are more productive, and gradually this association beats all other forms of association. It has defeated all forms of government, all forms of government.

You can think of it as the birth of new forms of organization that cross borders.

Hansi:
@荣哥理财师你发的这个精辟
This is a brilliant one

hslayj:
站在现在的国际政治局势中，站在国家的角度，军备竞赛几乎是必须参与的，否则弱国无外交，即使经济发展很好的日本，也会因为无法拒绝广岛协议而被按在地板上，品尝那政治失利带来的经济苦果，所以在现有的国际秩序中，暴力逻辑是最基本的国家发展逻辑，从这个角度来讲，你的观点是没错的。不过从人类命运共同体的角度来讲，人类是排斥暴力的，不管是各种反对军国主义的协议还是核遏制策略，都是人类为了追求和平而产生的各种努力，所以我们可以把这种人类意志与人类行为的背离可以理解成一种博弈论中的纳什均衡，人类希望总体的和平，却无法通过国家间的个体博弈到达那个地方。
Standing in the international political situation now, stand in the Angle of the country, is almost a must engage in arms race, otherwise the disorder diplomacy, even if very good Japanese economic development, also can because he can’t refuse Hiroshima agreement and is pressed on the floor, to taste the defeat the political economic consequences, so in the existing international order, violence logic is the most basic national development logic, from this perspective, your point of view is right. But from the perspective of community of human destiny, human is a rejection of violence, whether various against the militarism agreement or nuclear containment strategy, is the human pursuit of peace and produce all kinds of efforts, so we can put the human will to the deviation of human behavior can be understood as a Nash equilibrium of game theory, human hope overall peace, but not through individual game between countries to reach that place.

但是BSV带来的区块链体系，为这种平息暴力逻辑的路径找到了一种可能，假如比特币BSV已经通过国家联盟完成了国际合法化确认，已经成为了国际间的主要流通货币之一，那么所有加盟国其实都为这个体系提供了暴力逻辑支持，这个时候的博弈逻辑就是比特币联盟组织与传统国家组织的博弈，由于都有暴力能力，所以在军事上，传统国家组织无法消灭比特币联盟组织，而在经济上，法币体系的烂尾性会使得传统国家组织越来越虚弱，而比特币联盟组织因为比特币与区块链强大的信用提供能力，能支持很好的经济发展逻辑，那么在经济上链内组织会慢慢淘汰掉链外组织。
But BSV block chain system, for this kind of logic to quell violence found a possible path, if the currency BSV was completed through the national union of international legal confirmation, has become one of the main currency of the international, so all members joined in fact provides the system logic support violence, this time the game logic is the currency union organization and traditional national organization of the game, because there are violent ability, so in the military, traditional national organizations cannot eliminate the currency union, and on the economy, housing of the fiat money system makes the traditional national organization more and more weak, As the bitcoin union organization can support good economic development logic due to the strong credit supply ability of bitcoin and blockchain, the organization within the economic chain will gradually eliminate the organization outside the chain.

Hansi:
这样的结果很让人满意
The result is satisfactory

hslayj:
而一旦全球都进入比特币区块链的逻辑，比特币成为唯一的全球流通货币，那么就是比特币联盟内部的国家博弈逻辑，由于都是比特币的联盟成员，就必须遵守比特币的联盟法律，而由于都共享了一套价值观，那么通过武力解决问题的可能性就变得非常小，因为大家都没有铸币权，打仗不管赢不赢，自己先要套真金白银的比特币来支持军事，这会掏干军国主义国家的裤腰带，而军国主义如果不可行，那么大家就会回到经济竞争的良性轨道上来，只要国家和城市破产了以后，人民仍然可以通过移民或者重建来完成体系的延续，那么国家破产、城市破产就是可以被容忍和允许的，当体制中的所有中心化体系都有生命周期，而所有人都不会因为中心化组织淘汰而产生生存危机，那么这个体系就是长期可持续的，国家的兴替将不再具备暴力逻辑，可能仅仅是经济逻辑使然。信息系统的进化，是这种博弈升级的底层逻辑，豺狼和狮子预见后会暴力相向，因为彼此都怕对方先下手为强，黑暗丛林法则中的猜疑链导致了每个个体都希望自己首先去攻击对方掌握暴力主动性，而我们的左手不会拿着刀去砍右手，因为他们共享了一套信息价值系统，BSV就是人类未来的中枢神经系统，它会让人类历史中诸多的猜疑链彻底埋入历史尘埃，塑造基于比特币的全新经济政治哲学观。
And, once the world into the logic of the currency block chain, the currency became the only global currency, then the currency union national game logic, because is the currency union member, you must obey the currency union laws, and due to share a set of values, so the possibility to solve the problem by force is very small, because everyone no COINS rights, regardless of war can’t win, win their first set of gold silver COINS in support of the military, it will dry out militarism belt of the country, if not feasible, and militarism then you will go back to the benign track economic competition, As long as the countries and cities went bankrupt, the people still can be finished through immigration or rebuild the continuation of system, then the national bankruptcy, city bankrupt is the person who can be tolerated and allowed, when all the centralized system of the system life cycle, and everyone will not produce because of the centralized organization to eliminate the survival crisis, then the system’s long-term sustainable and countries for logic, will no longer have the violence may simply be driven by economic logic. The evolution of the information system, this is the game to upgrade the underlying logic, the meeting after the Wolf and the lion see violence, because they are afraid of the other party to first, the law of the jungle of suspicion of the dark chain led to each individual want to attack each other’s first master violence initiative, and we will not take knife to cut the right hand, left hand because they share a set of information value system and BSV is a central nervous system of human in the future, it will make many suspicions in the human history chain thoroughly into the historical dust, shaping a new economic and political philosophy based on the currency.

刘子震:
人类希望和平向往和平，这个是正确的。比特币区块链设计也有无比的优越性，但这只停留在梦想阶段，如何找到比特币区块链推广的契机，或者切入点，才是最具有现实意义和实用价值的。构想很完美，现实很残酷
It is true that mankind hopes for peace and yearns for peace. Bitcoin blockchain design also has incomparable advantages, but this is only in the dream stage, how to find the opportunity to promote bitcoin blockchain, or entry point, is the most practical significance and practical value. The idea is perfect, the reality is cruel

hslayj:
首先有思想，然后才会有实践，每个人的切入点不同，看到的问题就不一样，把比特币的经济意义、政治意义、哲学意义讨论清楚，未尝不是为未来的比特币体系推广做好理论铺垫准备，意义是人自己赋予自己的，你也可以去做你认为有意义的事情，别人也可以做别人认为有意义的事情，最后总会经过实践检验，正确的留下，错误的淘汰掉，真实世界的谜底揭开之前，谁都不知道哪条路径是一定正确的。
Thinking first, and then to have practice, the starting point of each person is different, see the problem is not the same, the economic significance of the currency, the political significance, clear philosophical discussion, be not theory a good groundwork for the future of the currency system of promotion, meaning is people to give their own, do you think you can also go to do meaningful things, others can do they think the meaningful things, will eventually tested, left right, wrong eliminated, the mystery of the real world unravel before, who all don’t know which way is correct.

刘晔律师:
何岩这本《重新创造比特币》很厉害啊，连我远在边陲小镇的兄弟们都知道了
He yan’s book “recreating bitcoin” is so good that even my brothers in a remote border town know it

何岩:
真的啊太激动了！
I’m so excited!

比特币张摩西:
牛逼了,期待比特币经济学
Awesome, expect bitcoin economics

何岩:
说的太棒了！思想和实践都很重要，两条腿走路，每个人选自己感兴趣的角度的去做就好了。罗老师的语言驾驭能力真棒！👍@hslayj 再积累一些文字量直接可以出书了就保持这种聊天方式原生态接地气！
That’s great! Both thought and practice are important. Walking on two legs, everyone should choose the Angle they are interested in. Mr Luo’s language skills are great! 👍 @ hslayj accumulate some literal can directly book stays this way of chat original grounding spirit!

hslayj:
过奖了，亚当斯密的《国富论》直接造就了人类的市场经济的文明繁荣，思想的力量是十分巨大的，比特币经济政治哲学，我觉得是一门很大的学问，在未来可能还需要很多学者去丰富它，目前来说，我目前抛出来的东西还十分稚嫩，我能做的只能是抛砖引玉，目前这个领域的理论深度和广度还有待大幅度的完善。不过我相信比特币的这种改变人类底层文明逻辑的潜力，对所有人来说，都是具有巨大吸引力的，BSV这套体系是真正的人类文明级别的瑰宝。
I’m flattered, Adam Smith’s “the wealth of nations” directly contributed to the human civilization prosperity of market economy, the power of thought is very huge, economic and political philosophy, COINS I think is a great learning, may need a lot of scholars to enrich it in the future, for now, I am currently out of things still very immature, I can do is this, the present theoretical depth and breadth in the field of it remains to be greatly improved. However, I believe that the potential of bitcoin to change the underlying logic of human civilization is of great appeal to all, and the BSV system is a true civilization level gem.

刘晔律师:
比特币要改变《国富论》的基本论点的,社会分工创造财富，但大规模分工的前提是金融，是信用法币
Bitcoin is going to change the basic argument of the wealth of nations, which is that the division of labor in society creates wealth, but the premise of the division of labor on a large scale is finance, is the legal currency of credit

hslayj:
每个理论都有其历史局限性和历史适用性，能够跳出当时的历史局限展望更高的历史可能性就是各种思想提出的最大意义，很多当时很牛很好的理论，历史事后去看，反而觉得很蠢很落后，但是只要解决了人类切实的问题，其实都可以称之为好理论。
Each theory has its historical limitations and applicability, history can jump out when the history of the limitations of history outlook for higher possibility is the most important significance of the ideas put forward, and a lot of very good theory at that time, history to see, feel stupid is very backward, but as long as can solve the problem of human practical, actually can be called a good theory.

hslayj:
金融和信用法币不能划等号，洛克菲勒的时代也有大规模分工和大规模创造，那时候也有借贷金融体系。
Finance and credit fiat money cannot be equated, Rockefeller’s era also had large-scale division of labor and large-scale creation, there was also a lending financial system.

刘晔律师:
可以说，英国、荷兰东印度公司的股权制创造了今天的财富，而东印度公司的基础就是牛顿的黄金英镑纸币化,牛顿非常厉害，其以物理洞察力涉入货币，管了世界500年
It can be said that the equity system of the British and Dutch east India companies created today’s wealth, and the foundation of the east India company was Newton’s banknote of gold and pound. Newton was so good that he waded into the currency with physical insight and ruled the world for 500 years

hslayj:
纸币也分为了金本位时代和信用货币时代，金本位法币和信用法币体系的底层逻辑是不一样的。
Paper money is also divided into the gold standard era and the credit money era.

刘晔律师:
牛顿的物理、金融思想奠定了今天的西方文明,金本位没有纸币,但中本聰将取代牛顿
Newton’s ideas of physics and finance laid the foundation for today’s western civilization. The gold standard has no paper money, but satoshi nakamoto will replace Newton

hslayj:
当初的美元里面是直接含有金子的，当初布雷顿森林体系的逻辑就是美元与黄金固定汇率挂钩，那时候的纸币就是金本位的，直接延续到上个世纪70年代。现代信用法币体系是美国单方面退出布雷顿森林体系的产物，可以说是违约产物。
There was gold directly in the original dollar, and the logic of the bretton woods system was that the dollar was fixed to gold, and paper money was the gold standard, and it lasted until the 1970s. The modern credit and legal currency system is the product of America’s unilateral withdrawal from the bretton woods system.

刘晔律师:
真正的金本位下，纸币只是一个代理产品。当纸币真的成为国家货币时，纸币便被统治者利用，再也不可能金银本位，从宋、元朝无不如此。朱元璋坚持银本位，所以明朝错过了机会。美国也跟宋、元一样，遏制不住滥印纸币的冲动
Under a true gold standard, paper money is just a proxy product. When paper money really became the national currency, it was used by the rulers, and gold and silver standard was no longer possible, from the song and yuan dynasties. Zhu yuanzhang insisted on the silver standard, so the Ming dynasty missed the opportunity. The United States, like the song and yuan, could not resist the urge to print money

刘晔律师:
印钞就是最简单的征税，是任何制度的国家领导人都不可能控制的冲动
Printing money is the simplest form of taxation, an impulse that no political leader can control

hslayj:
明朝开始的时候是排斥银本位的，朱元璋开始推行宝钞,即明朝的法定货币，是民间流通白银已经逐步替代了官方货币，而不得不做的顺水推舟的政令改革，而且清朝的银本位并没有阻止中国的强盛，在鸦片战争以前，中国的GDP是几乎占了世界GDP的三分之一的，所以信用法币的好处宣传，很多时候我理解的是因为既得利益集团的官僚科学主义体制的政治诉求。
Is rejected silver standard at the beginning of the Ming dynasty, zhu yuanzhang began pushing bao chao, namely the legal tender of the Ming dynasty, is a private circulation of silver has gradually replaced the official currency, and had to show the decrees of reform, and the qing dynasty of silver standard did not stop China’s strong, before the opium war, China’s GDP is accounted for almost a third of the world GDP, so the benefits of credit fiat propaganda, many times I understand because vested interests of bureaucratic system of scientific socialism political demands.

hslayj:
货币刺激就好像打吗啡，如果用来治疗危机可能有点用，如果整天用，就上瘾了，戒不掉，直到这个体系废掉为止。
Monetary stimulus is like morphine, which can be useful if used to treat a crisis. If used all day, it can be addictive and cannot be given up until the system is broken.

荣哥理财师:
我觉得可以慢慢整理出来成书@hslayj
I thought I could sort it out into a book

hslayj:
@荣哥理财师出书问题等到BSV体系获得国际法定地位以后再说，那时候的BSV已经进入成年期了，起码不会猝死。
Until the BSV system achieved international legal status, BSV had reached adulthood, at least not sudden death.

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New friends can learn about BSV from the following channels:
The doctor’s blog at https://www.craigwright.net
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Official :BSVofficial
Public number: qiu shaoxian flirts with Metanet

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